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post #42916 of 57266
@conceptionist never did I say to completely lay off back squats but ok. He said he wants quad development and upper body hypertrophy.
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I think basically everyone would reach their goals on some variation of squats, presses, deadlifts, rows + machines for isolation and specific work for muscle groups
This sentence is basically the most vague non contributing sentence ever. You might as well have said resistance training make muscle.

Also, did you just compare yourself to world class powerlifting coaches?
post #42917 of 57266
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Originally Posted by tesseract View Post

@conceptionist never did I say to completely lay off back squats but ok. He said he wants quad development and upper body hypertrophy.

This sentence is basically the most vague non contributing sentence ever. You might as well have said resistance training make muscle.

Also, did you just compare yourself to world class powerlifting coaches?

 

Ok, that would be better, but I still think high rep high bar squats is more specific and relevant for powerlifting, even if your goal is size atm.

 

Yeah, thats because there's a load of ways you can set up your training. As long as you're doing those movements in some tested set x rep scheme with decent frequency, you're gonna gain size and strength. I just recommend full body because that's what I believe in for most guys. I still think P/P/L or upper lower are very good options but its easier to mess those kinds of templates up by doing more than you need or training a muscle/lift less often than you can.

 

No, I did not compare myself to them. That would be ridiculous. Read my post again.

post #42918 of 57266
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Originally Posted by conceptionist View Post

Alright, I see. I'm not bashing you.
A long off season like that should be perfect for bringing up work tolerance. Thinking about it, you did a split before so its not as big of a change as it would be if you were coming from a full body program. I just didn't think it was worth paying for a program with slightly more focus on size, but then again I also pay for my training template redface.gif  

For sure, I welcome your critique and usually agree with you. I'm very interested to see what's going to happen with much lower intensity and higher work volume throughout the months. My powerlifting program was pretty high volume; first week was 12,10,10,12 reps that would eventually taper down to 3, 3, 5. But now It's a steady 15, 15, 12, 8, 15 week after week. My guess is I'll loose explosiveness and some form ability and such, I'm just wondering how much. I really hope I don't fuck myself and become that skinny dude squatting 135lbs.

I'm still back squatting, I just did like 65 reps of squats. It was just highbar.

I got a deal on my programming up until November, dude was stoked on it and I just owe him some burritos.
post #42919 of 57266
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Originally Posted by Coldsnap View Post


For sure, I welcome your critique and usually agree with you. I'm very interested to see what's going to happen with much lower intensity and higher work volume throughout the months. My powerlifting program was pretty high volume; first week was 12,10,10,12 reps that would eventually taper down to 3, 3, 5. But now It's a steady 15, 15, 12, 8, 15 week after week. My guess is I'll loose explosiveness and some form ability and such.

My training atm is way lower intensity but more volume than when I did my own program. 

I got back to some heavier weights today and they did feel heavier than they should've. So yeah, you are prob gonna lose some strength in the short term but in the long run you're gonna gain more from building up work capacity and getting bigger than to just go heavy all the time. Contrary to what many guys think, my trainer think muscle mass is what holds back most natural powerlifters.

post #42920 of 57266
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Originally Posted by conceptionist View Post

Ok, that would be better, but I still think high rep high bar squats is more specific and relevant for powerlifting, even if your goal is size atm.

Yeah, thats because there's a load of ways you can set up your training. As long as you're doing those movements in some tested set x rep scheme with decent frequency, you're gonna gain size and strength. I just recommend full body because that's what I believe in for most guys. I still think P/P/L or upper lower are very good options but its easier to mess those kinds of templates up by doing more than you need or training a muscle/lift less often than you can.

No, I did not compare myself to them. That would be ridiculous. Read my post again.

The problem with just doing back squats are a.) you aren't hitting your quads properly especially if you are posterior chain dominant and b.) never working from a different angle gives the opportunity for huge weak points in the future. At least recommend front squats if you are going to be a squat zealot.
post #42921 of 57266
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Originally Posted by conceptionist View Post

My training atm is way lower intensity but more volume than when I did my own program. 
I got back to some heavier weights today and they did feel heavier than they should've. So yeah, you are prob gonna lose some strength in the short term but in the long run you're gonna gain more from building up work capacity and getting bigger than to just go heavy all the time. Contrary to what many guys think, my trainer think muscle mass is what holds back most natural powerlifters.

I believe it. Powerlifting has so much to do with leverages and maximizing them. My form and leverages looked so much better at 198lbs, I would eventually like to get there but not be fat. Still though, I don't think any beginners should think about this stuff until they hit a double bodyweight squat, over double bodyweight deadlift, and over bodyweight bench.
post #42922 of 57266
Front squats are a even better choice for quads, I give you that.

Agree with you Coldsnap. Mostly overthinking but also lack of calories held me back for too long. Nice to not have to think about my training anymore.
post #42923 of 57266
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Originally Posted by conceptionist View Post

Front squats are a even better choice for quads, I give you that.

Agree with you Coldsnap. Mostly overthinking but also lack of calories held me back for too long. Nice to not have to think about my training anymore.

I still prefer hack squats for quad size. I can front squat 315lbs and it just doesn't do what it needs to do.
post #42924 of 57266
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Originally Posted by fuji View Post

How did the 5'2" 17 year old do?

He ended up winning the teen division(out of two) and finished 5/5 in lightweight. He was super thrilled. Super nice dude.
post #42925 of 57266
Potato quality video of my comp. I am number 55(start off on far left)

Definitely coulda been a couple pounds leaner.

Also realizing that the lighting didn't do anyone with Dream Tan on any favors.
Edited by TeeKay - 4/28/14 at 5:32pm
post #42926 of 57266

Did 59 win?

post #42927 of 57266
Yeah....dude did a backflip during his individual routine lol
post #42928 of 57266
The lightweight won overall, though:
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Who was the lightweight in that? 59 looks the best to me even in that. 58 and 62 look skinny in comparison!

post #42930 of 57266
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post

Who was the lightweight in that? 59 looks the best to me even in that. 58 and 62 look skinny in comparison!

The lightweight is the guy with the shredded glutes. I thought 59 was clearly the best, but the judges went with the most shredded guy.

That's kind of my beef with natural bbing this days. It's less about muscle development and more about who can diet the most.
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