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post #40606 of 57261
My bench and dead is still stupid disproportionate to my squat. Bench 205 for reps, can DL 315 for reps, and struggle with 200 squats for reps : |
post #40607 of 57261
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Originally Posted by MarkI View Post

My bench and dead is still stupid disproportionate to my squat. Bench 205 for reps, can DL 315 for reps, and struggle with 200 squats for reps : |

We need to train together bro. What do they say.. It's like it takes 1,000,000 tries of doing something to master it and like 100,000 tries to get good at it. You're probably close to the 100,000 on bench and I'm close the 100,000 on squats and deads.
post #40608 of 57261

I was squatting 225 for reps but I decided to dial it back to get more depth.  I struggled coming out from rock bottom at 190, so I reset again to ~160 and am climbing up by 5s.  Should I do one shallower set each workout at heavier weight so I don't lose strength?

post #40609 of 57261
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Originally Posted by Coldsnap View Post

I think some good 'ol fashioned hypertrophy is what dis playa needs

I need some hypertrophy too. I have no idea why I am basically cutting but going into the gym wanting to do 1rms. The only day I have stopped doing that with is deadlift day and I am crediting my progress to that.
post #40610 of 57261
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Originally Posted by Coldsnap View Post

We need to train together bro. What do they say.. It's like it takes 1,000,000 tries of doing something to master it and like 100,000 tries to get good at it. You're probably close to the 100,000 on bench and I'm close the 100,000 on squats and deads.

Probably true, whenever I used to go to the gym before I started taking lifting seriously I was a total chest and biceps brah haha, carried over from there.
post #40611 of 57261
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Originally Posted by mrchariybrown View Post

Yep, now my rogues are just weeping silently in my trunk.

What made you want to switch? higher heel?
post #40612 of 57261
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Originally Posted by KingJulien View Post

I was squatting 225 for reps but I decided to dial it back to get more depth.  I struggled coming out from rock bottom at 190, so I reset again to ~160 and am climbing up by 5s.  Should I do one shallower set each workout at heavier weight so I don't lose strength?

Nah, seems like a two step forward one step back way of trying to get a deeper squat.
post #40613 of 57261
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Originally Posted by Coldsnap View Post

What made you want to switch? higher heel?

Just wanted to try it out. Feels more stable.
post #40614 of 57261
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Originally Posted by KingJulien View Post

I was squatting 225 for reps but I decided to dial it back to get more depth.  I struggled coming out from rock bottom at 190, so I reset again to ~160 and am climbing up by 5s.  Should I do one shallower set each workout at heavier weight so I don't lose strength?

IMO you should stick with the deeper depth. Your body will soon adapt and be squatting the same numbers as old.
post #40615 of 57261
cg bench in particular has been best bench builder for me, along with increased tricep work in general.

Also, I'm down 3lb (lowest recorded ever so far) over 3 days of moderate-carb primarily fast food diet after 3 day binge drinking this weekend. How? It can't be three pounds of fat, but doesn't seem like I'd lose that much water when I came home same weight I left... maybe I lost lots of gains frown.gif

Have not back squatted all year. Currently front squatting only for 3x5x160 plus 3-4x10 leg machines.

Coldsnap, not to call you out, but the numbers you posted this morning are inconsistent with a claim you made a few weeks ago...
post #40616 of 57261
What's a CG bench?
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Originally Posted by VLSI View Post

Coldsnap, not to call you out, but the numbers you posted this morning are inconsistent with a claim you made a few weeks ago...

I realized my 1,000 total had my measly 120lbs press calculated it in, so yea inconsitent heh. I'm hitting stuff that puts me at 900 total, so who knows. I mean it's sorta hard to guess where you're at total wise when your on a high volume phase, still hitting 90% but I'm feel crazy strong and repping the shit out of it. I should probably just shut up and not claim anything until I've done my next meet, nothings done until actually done for better or worse

I think from now on, no one should believe what I say unless there is a video. Probably most of you have adapted this way of thinking heh. I actually tried to video my 250 x 12, was going to post it here but my damn phone ran out of storage half way through it.
Edited by Coldsnap - 3/5/14 at 9:09am
post #40617 of 57261
I jumped back on the IF/fasted training wave 2/17... looking back at my logs, body weight is down ~2lbs, but 3x5 bench & shoulder press are up 10lbs, 3x5 squat and deadlift are up 20lbs. Over the last 2 fucking weeks. Again we'll see what happens long term but I'm loving this shit so far. I am not trying to cut either, I'm averaging about 3000 kcal/day
Edited by Cool The Kid - 3/5/14 at 9:45am
post #40618 of 57261
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Originally Posted by Coldsnap View Post

What's a CG bench?

Close grip
post #40619 of 57261

Found this and felt I had an obligation to share it.

Keep in mind that it's protein from animal sources. I just checked mine and on a day with total 200g protein with 3500 calories, only 120g protein come from animal sources, which is below 20% of total kcals.

 

High animal protein diets (over 20% of total kcal intake from animal protein) in your middle age quadruples your risk of getting cancer (same risk as smoking):

 

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Mice and humans with growth hormone receptor/IGF-1 deficiencies display major reductions in age-related diseases. Because protein restriction reduces GHR-IGF-1 activity, we examined links between protein intake and mortality. Respondents aged 50–65 reporting high protein intake had a 75% increase in overall mortality and a 4-fold increase in cancer death risk during the following 18 years. These associations were either abolished or attenuated if the proteins were plant derived. Conversely, high protein intake was associated with reduced cancer and overall mortality in respondents over 65, but a 5-fold increase in diabetes mortality across all ages. Mouse studies confirmed the effect of high protein intake and GHR-IGF-1 signaling on the incidence and progression of breast and melanoma tumors, but also the detrimental effects of a low protein diet in the very old. These results suggest that low protein intake during middle age followed by moderate to high protein consumption in old adults may optimize healthspan and longevity.

Notably, our results showed that the amount of proteins derived from animal sources accounted for a significant proportion of the association between overall protein intake and all-cause and cancer mortality. These results are in agreement with recent findings on the association between red meat consumption and death from all-cause and cancer.

subjects in the high protein group had a 74% increase in their relative risk of all-cause mortality (HR: 1.74; 95% CI: 1.02–2.97) and were more than four times as likely to die of cancer (HR: 4.33; 95% CI: 1.96–9.56) when compared to those in the low protein group.

Overall, our human and animal studies indicate that a low protein diet during middle age is likely to be beneficial for the prevention of cancer, overall mortality, and possibly diabetes through a process that may involve, at least in part, regulation of circulating IGF-1 and possibly insulin levels. In agreement with other epidemiological and animal studies (Estruch et al., 2013,Linos and Willett, 2007,Michaud et al., 2001,Willett, 2006), our findings suggest that a diet in which plant-based nutrients represent the majority of the food intake is likely to maximize health benefits in all age groups. However, we propose that up to age 65 and possibly 70, depending on health status, the 0.7 to 0.8 g of proteins/kg of body weight/day reported by the Food and Nutrition Board of the Institute of Medicine, currently viewed as a minimum requirement, should be recommended instead of the 1.0–1.3 g grams of proteins/kg of body weight/day consumed by adults ages 19–70 (Fulgoni, 2008).

Low Protein Intake Is Associated with a Major Reduction in IGF-1, Cancer, and Overall Mortality in the 65 and Younger but Not Older Population. Cell Metabolism, Volume 19, Issue 3, 407-417, 4 March 2014.

Full length study:
http://www.cell.com/cell-metabolism/...-X?script=true
 

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Foods high in animal protein have been tied to a fourfold increase in the risk of cancer death, making a diet heavy on meat and cheese nearly as deadly as smoking.

http://www.medicaldaily.com/meat-and...r-death-270534
 

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Almost everyone is going to have a cancer cell or pre-cancer cell in them at some point. The question is: Does it progress?" Longo said. "Turns out one of the major factors in determining if it does is is protein intake."

From the press release - http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...-mac022814.php
http://www.medicaldaily.com/meat-and...r-death-270534

post #40620 of 57261
Cool, so I can enjoy my Cigars without feeling bad now...
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