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post #40531 of 49065
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Originally Posted by TeeKay View Post

Chances are, you have abs in there. You're just not lean enough to see them. They'll be there, tho. Just gotta believe.

When I flex I see them some, but I have that thing you see on skinny guys where it sinks in on the sides and they look narrow, unless that will fix itself when I lean out too. Thinking I should forgo a strong taper and work oblique to help balance out my pelvis and just go for a thick look.
post #40532 of 49065
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Originally Posted by VLSI View Post

Can someone give me ab routine to add to PPL I'm doing. Going to have cavity where abs should be after this cut I think frown.gif

Thread so hostile this morning.

3 sets of planks and then planks on each side (do body weight until you get up to 1 minute at which point add 25 lbs and work your way up to 1 minute and then add 10 more lbs etc. etc).
3 sets of 20 of these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH2FOJfUqLE
Then if you have a TRX, go to failure doing jackknifes left, then middle, then right.
post #40533 of 49065
Do you have a soure to backup that program? nest.gif

Jk, will do, thanks. No trx but I do have tow straps which are the same damn thing...
post #40534 of 49065
it was what my physical therapist recommended i do to recover from pelvic diastasys (which basically involved getting a stronger core without doing any crunch-like movements).

The only thing i added were the middle jackknifes.
post #40535 of 49065
I've been doing that ab routine GN posted every day as a part of my stretching routine. I think it will protect my back and hips in the long run.
post #40536 of 49065
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Originally Posted by VLSI View Post

Can someone give me ab routine to add to PPL I'm doing. Going to have cavity where abs should be after this cut I think frown.gif

Thread so hostile this morning.

Snatches, belt less front squats and max effort high pulls off blocks, overhead carries, farmers walks.
Edited by tesseract - 3/4/14 at 9:16am
post #40537 of 49065
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Originally Posted by GraphicNovelty View Post


3 sets of planks and then planks on each side (do body weight until you get up to 1 minute at which point add 25 lbs and work your way up to 1 minute and then add 10 more lbs etc. etc).
3 sets of 20 of these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH2FOJfUqLE
Then if you have a TRX, go to failure doing jackknifes left, then middle, then right.

 

I'm not sure of the name of the exercise, but I would add in what is essentially a vertical leg raise (done from a dip bar or whatever, raise your feet as high as you can slowly, lower and repeat).  Works the top of the motion instead of the bottom.  I also like ab wheel rollouts because they're fun :]

post #40538 of 49065
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Originally Posted by ihambrecht View Post

Snatches, belt less front squats and max effort high pulls off blocks, overhead carries, farmers walks.

I miss high pulls, such a fun lift. You found lots of core development from them? Makes sense being a pulling variation, but I found more benefit in my upper back
post #40539 of 49065
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Originally Posted by jarude View Post

I miss high pulls, such a fun lift. You found lots of core development from them? Makes sense being a pulling variation, but I found more benefit in my upper back

I yoked up quickly but my bro science opinion is anytime you
Are bracing your whole body to throw hundreds of pounds up into the air your core needs to adapt. On a side note do don't know if my abs are overdeveloped, I have a lot of visceral fat or both but my abs are thick and visible
post #40540 of 49065
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Originally Posted by GraphicNovelty View Post

I don't disbelieve that this is a good method but I'd like just more confirmation/linkage than some random bro on the internet.

Not trying to come off as a dickrider, but iham is the same height as you, and i've personally seen him row 200+ bench 3 plates, and deadlift and squat more than that, and if you havent seen the pictures he's posted he's juicy aesthetic manlet status...so you can probably trust what he says.

proof is in the pudding so to speak
post #40541 of 49065
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Originally Posted by ihambrecht View Post


I yoked up quickly but my bro science opinion is anytime you
Are bracing your whole body to throw hundreds of pounds up into the air your core needs to adapt. On a side note do don't know if my abs are overdeveloped, I have a lot of visceral fat or both but my abs are thick and visible

 

My guess is that the effectiveness of this depends how much you're doing it with.  I added in a bunch of accessory ab work because my squats, cleans etc are not super high (therefore probably not working my abs that hard) and I definitely noticed a big improvement quickly.

post #40542 of 49065
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Originally Posted by KingJulien View Post

My guess is that the effectiveness of this depends how much you're doing it with.  I added in a bunch of accessory ab work because my squats, cleans etc are not super high (therefore probably not working my abs that hard) and I definitely noticed a big improvement quickly.

Yeah this is true, i go pretty heavy with my highpulls and front squat. I hit a 355 front squat this week and ive been pretty much stuck at 275x3 for highpulls off blocks. i used to start from a hang position but i like the fact i start the pull with zero momentum.
post #40543 of 49065
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Originally Posted by MarkI View Post

Not trying to come off as a dickrider, but iham is the same height as you, and i've personally seen him row 200+ bench 3 plates, and deadlift and squat more than that, and if you havent seen the pictures he's posted he's juicy aesthetic manlet status...so you can probably trust what he says.

proof is in the pudding so to speak

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post #40544 of 49065
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Originally Posted by ihambrecht View Post

Snatches, belt less front squats and max effort high pulls off blocks, overhead carries, farmers walks.

good recipe but good luck finding people who can do the first three correctly
post #40545 of 49065
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Originally Posted by ihambrecht View Post

Well that gets to my original point. Conceptionist is getting his information from people trying to sell their services (at ridiculous prices). He also said he would rather listen to the information they are spewing rather than some huge strong guy at the gym. You know why powerlifter gyms are filled with big strong guys? They fucking talk to each other about what works regardless of what some sports science major researched in a lab.

EDIT: he also planned a diet for mark based on a program he tried and saw no results from. He gained no muscle on the program and he was trying to bulk. That doesn't sit well with me. if you arent gaining muscle on a surplus while using a program why would you think using it as a long term cutting program would not devour muscle?

I lift in a powerlifting gym. I speak to those guys everytime I train. One of them helped me with my squat form which immediatley put 20 pounds on the bar. I've said twice already that I think its best to get input from BOTH science and buff dudes IRL. I am merely trying to help people with the former by directing them to popular sources and if break it down easier if they want to.

Now that I think of it, I actually did Leangains too on my first bulk which was successful. The second time (after my cut) I expect I didn't gain because of too low calories. Thats what I meant earlier and it means that I prob wasn't in a calorie surplus while I thought I was. I underestimated my calorie expenditure after cutting for 3 months. Not very uncommon.

I have made some changes and and am steadily gaining weight and pounds on the bar now, so its not like I don't know how to gain weight at least.
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