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post #40126 of 46367
I'm probably in the older age range for RHET (maybe?) and I'll echo a lot that's been said about careers/jobs. Do what you enjoy and it'll feel less like a job. That's just the simple truth. It's true, but not always realistic. Sometimes we gotta do the jobs we don't want to do in order to advance to where we want to be or survive.

I worked odd jobs to survive for the majority of my early adult life. I "fell into" a career job that I was indifferent about, but excelled in. I got promoted 3 times in 5-6 years, made it to a position that had people scouting/headhunting me via Linkedin. Although I ended up hating the field, and the job I was able to; pay off all my debt, take care of my GF so she could pursue and finish up school, live a comfortable life with hobbies and middle class luxuries, and money wasn't an immediate issue. After 6 years, with debt gone, GF in a good position, I quit my job at the beginning of this year. I'm now going after what I want to do because I can't imagine myself doing something I hate for another 6, 12, 18+ years.

Without getting too lecture-y I say if you're still young (Mark you're still in your early 20s if I'm not mistaken?) and aren't in survival mode, take your time and think long term about what you want to do/be, and then start your path. The longer you wait the harder it becomes. I might be in the minority, but for the long term I rather work a decent paying job that I love and don't mind 10+ hour days compared to a high paying job where I wake up every morning bitching and moaning about going in. Thankfully my new pursuit is pretty good pay and something I'm passionate about.
post #40127 of 46367
I'm jealous of young people these days.

The types of opportunities that exist for you didn't exist when I came out of school 13 years ago.
post #40128 of 46367
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Originally Posted by TRINI View Post

I'm jealous of young people these days.

The types of opportunities that exist for you didn't exist when I came out of school 13 years ago.


Like what? My uncle said the same when I told him how much I was getting paid and he's like 55 or something, I'm guessing the careers service at his uni is not as good as mine so that could be why. I can't imagine the job market was that different 13 years ago.

I am very against the waiting around after uni thinking about what you want to do, I think you should jump right into something with lots of exit opportunities even if you hate it because it's only a few years. I have loads of friends who say they're just going to like go travel around and "teach" poor people English or be a bartender for a few years, but then you can't go through campus recruitment and you have to apply against experienced hires and you'll get slaughtered by someone with a few years experience. I have a friend at a non target uni doing maths who wants to go into finance. After uni he's doing some program called teach first where you teach poverty children how to do basic maths (strong use of studying topology) and then apply for IBD. No one wants a 24 year old whose done no real work since he graduated when they can hire a fresh eager 21 year old.
post #40129 of 46367
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Originally Posted by TRINI View Post

I'm jealous of young people these days.

The types of opportunities that exist for you didn't exist when I came out of school 13 years ago.

lol wow
post #40130 of 46367
I work for da video games. Spent pretty much 100% of my paycheck the first year, mostly because I worked a job through college and was always busy and dead broke. Then I saved a bit and bought a car I always wanted.
post #40131 of 46367
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Originally Posted by fuji View Post

Like what? My uncle said the same when I told him how much I was getting paid and he's like 55 or something, I'm guessing the careers service at his uni is not as good as mine so that could be why. I can't imagine the job market was that different 13 years ago.

I am very against the waiting around after uni thinking about what you want to do, I think you should jump right into something with lots of exit opportunities even if you hate it because it's only a few years. I have loads of friends who say they're just going to like go travel around and "teach" poor people English or be a bartender for a few years, but then you can't go through campus recruitment and you have to apply against experienced hires and you'll get slaughtered by someone with a few years experience. I have a friend at a non target uni doing maths who wants to go into finance. After uni he's doing some program called teach first where you teach poverty children how to do basic maths (strong use of studying topology) and then apply for IBD. No one wants a 24 year old whose done no real work since he graduated when they can hire a fresh eager 21 year old.

I'm talking about start ups and what not. Guys I went to b-school with either went into ibanking, consulting or industry.

Now I imagine everyone is looking to launch the next Facebook buyout bait.
post #40132 of 46367
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Originally Posted by MarkI View Post

They wouldnt, and a lot of the time they're making a lot more than you, doing a lot less work.
This is just not true.
Edited by Cool The Kid - 2/21/14 at 2:35pm
post #40133 of 46367
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Originally Posted by TRINI View Post

I'm jealous of young people these days.

The types of opportunities that exist for you didn't exist when I came out of school 13 years ago.

Uh what?

Aren't the unemployment rates for recent grads through the roof nowadays?

When I graduated college with a Bachelor's of Science from a well-known university with honors literally the only job I could find was scrubbing toilets and stocking shelves at a Hobby Lobby. If I didn't go on to grad school I woulda been hosed.
post #40134 of 46367
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Originally Posted by fuji View Post


Like what? My uncle said the same when I told him how much I was getting paid and he's like 55 or something, I'm guessing the careers service at his uni is not as good as mine so that could be why. I can't imagine the job market was that different 13 years ago.

I am very against the waiting around after uni thinking about what you want to do, I think you should jump right into something with lots of exit opportunities even if you hate it because it's only a few years. I have loads of friends who say they're just going to like go travel around and "teach" poor people English or be a bartender for a few years, but then you can't go through campus recruitment and you have to apply against experienced hires and you'll get slaughtered by someone with a few years experience. I have a friend at a non target uni doing maths who wants to go into finance. After uni he's doing some program called teach first where you teach poverty children how to do basic maths (strong use of studying topology) and then apply for IBD. No one wants a 24 year old whose done no real work since he graduated when they can hire a fresh eager 21 year old.

 

Being a bartender so you can party in your home city is dumb, but doing a TEFL program and teaching english so you can live in another country for awhile is totally worth it.  Not everybody is entirely zeroed in on salary.

 

I will, say, though, that while I plan to do that too, I wanted to get myself solid experience first so a) I can pay for it and b) can find a job immediately upon return.  Will probably start booking tickets in the next 1-2 years.

post #40135 of 46367
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Originally Posted by KingJulien View Post

Being a bartender so you can party in your home city is dumb, but doing a TEFL program and teaching english so you can live in another country for awhile is totally worth it.  Not everybody is entirely zeroed in on salary.

I will, say, though, that while I plan to do that too, I wanted to get myself solid experience first so a) I can pay for it and b) can find a job immediately upon return.  Will probably start booking tickets in the next 1-2 years.

Well yeah, if you've already had experience you can go chill for a few years and as long as you have something vaguely interesting for your cv and not that you just sat at home you could probably get back in. My main point was not to miss out on campus recruitment.
post #40136 of 46367
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Originally Posted by TeeKay View Post

Uh what?

Aren't the unemployment rates for recent grads through the roof nowadays?

When I graduated college with a Bachelor's of Science from a well-known university with honors literally the only job I could find was scrubbing toilets and stocking shelves at a Hobby Lobby. If I didn't go on to grad school I woulda been hosed.

Maybe it was your major? This was not my experience.

I'm also of the opinion that private universities are a scam. State school for everyone please.
post #40137 of 46367
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Originally Posted by VLSI View Post

Maybe it was your major? This was not my experience.

I'm also of the opinion that private universities are a scam. State school for everyone please.

I was a Biology major.

There were unfortunately zero research jobs available unless you had a Masters or above or were intending on going into Academia.

Also went to a state school. Have gotten thru undergrad and med school with a grand total of $26k in debt(not counting all the time to Uncle Sam I owe).
post #40138 of 46367
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Originally Posted by VLSI View Post


Maybe it was your major? This was not my experience.

I'm also of the opinion that private universities are a scam. State school for everyone please.

 

Questioning whether you guys read the news... it's definitely the trend.  Unemployment levels for 30-and-unders are through the roof:

 

 

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/02/indisputable-evidence-that-millennials-have-it-worse-than-any-generation-in-50-years/283752/

 

Getting out of school right now with an engineering, CS, or finance degree will get you a job right away.  I graduated with a liberal arts degree and it took me a few months, and I did significantly better than most of my peers in that regard.

post #40139 of 46367
I dont know of a lot that an undergrad bio major would do without further study... could be wrong though... middle school science teacher?

I was engineering, so that definitely made it easier.

Went to a top tier private university, would have way more debt without a generous mommy and daddy. I honestly don't think it was worth it in hindsight though.
post #40140 of 46367
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Originally Posted by VLSI View Post

I dont know of a lot that an undergrad bio major would do without further study... could be wrong though... middle school science teacher?

I was engineering, so that definitely made it easier.

Went to a top tier private university, would have way more debt without a generous mommy and daddy. I honestly don't think it was worth it in hindsight though.

 

Top-tier like BU or top-tier like Harvard? I went to a state school but took classes at the nearby sub-ivy as well, and the difference in class caliber (and students) was striking.  That said, I think the biggest difference there is going to be your network.  Drop the word Harvard or Yale in any major city and there will be a fleet of alumni coming to help you find a job.  I definitely do not regret not going to BU / Northeastern and the other similar schools I got into though.

 

I think a bio major would probably be in a similar spot as an English or Communications or whatever major... there are jobs, but you have to take like an admin job for a year to get anywhere.

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