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post #38626 of 46334
oh good lord there's a video. I need to stay off facebook
post #38627 of 46334
link it phaggot
post #38628 of 46334
Was the injury from dropping the weight on a miss? Yikes
post #38629 of 46334
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWJapBpKrQA

edit: Tough to see what happened.
post #38630 of 46334
overpulled and it crashed on him
post #38631 of 46334
thats fucking awful

i will never bitch about any injury again ever
post #38632 of 46334
Sucks what happened to that guy, be careful brahs.

What's a good accesory exercise to help develop speed and power out of the hole in squat?
post #38633 of 46334
Paused work mark
post #38634 of 46334
^ 3+ second paused squats are humbling as fuck
post #38635 of 46334

Do warmups and/or lighter hypertrophy work faster, and ditto to the pause work (helps you not good-morning the weight out of the hole also, if you're strict with it).

That injury is horrible :( Scary thinking how easily that could happen too.

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Don't want to push this PL gym down your guys throat all the time, but there's some more stuff I thought could be worth sharing.

 

Here's some videos of the place and the guys training there:

Here's some videos of the place and the guys training there: (Click to show)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Been thinking about a long term development plan for my lifting. 

Currently doing ICF 5x5 (basically Stronglifts with accessory) just to get a lot of volume in and practice the main lifts and build up my work capacity. Adding 5 pounds on 5x5 squats 3 times a week is starting to get diffcult. Couldn't do 5 reps yesterday so did 6 sets of 4 at 245 instead. Will have to do smaller increments pretty soon and maybe switch out one of the squatting sessions for lighter front squats or pause squats. 

 

Thinking about turning over to Madcow or Texas Method when I've milked this routine and can no longer get daily progress. Would like to switch to a program that is as similar as possible to what I'm already running. Anyone here have experience with those two programs?

 

Another option would be to run one of the entry Sheiko templates. While they're mostly considered programs for advanced lifters in US, they're actually one of the go to beginner PL routines over here. Quite surpising, but makes sense since they feature a lot of practice at low intensities to get solid technique.

post #38637 of 46334
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Originally Posted by TehBunny View Post

Do warmups and/or lighter hypertrophy work faster, and ditto to the pause work (helps you not good-morning the weight out of the hole also, if you're strict with it).
That injury is horrible frown.gif Scary thinking how easily that could happen too.

The guy who got hurt was thick solid tight too. When you read an article like that you assume it's an inexperienced lifter trying a dangerous lift like the snatch.
post #38638 of 46334
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Originally Posted by gort View Post

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWJapBpKrQA

edit: Tough to see what happened.

Looks like the weight was a bit behind him and couldn't hold it coming up, fell backwards onto his ass and didn't push away from the barbell, which then crashed onto his upper back. Being that he was dumping, he wasn't braced for the barbell hitting him again. You can definitely see the moment when he legs just go "numb" for lack of a better word. I looked at other videos of him and he appears to have fairly sound technique. I often take ~300 lbs from overhead to front or btn rack, but that's under complete control of the barbell, my entire body engaged to receive the weight, and legs to help cushion the impact. I guarantee that this guy has also frequently did similar things, but in this case he just was not prepared at all to have the weight come onto his body at a weird trajectory and sheared or compressed his spine in a really REALLY bad way.

I've never been one of the Crossfit hater bandwagon peeps, and ultimately it is the athlete's decision to partake in these events, but in the case I think the Crossfit leaders need to re-evaluate what they're doing. Having a 3-rep touch-n-go snatch for max load as one of nine events in a three day competition is pretty absurd. Hell, 3-rep touch-n-go snatch for max load is pretty ridiculous in and of itself; you ask any good weight lifter and one of the most important factors to making lifts is staying tight throughout and hitting positions. If you're doing touch-n-go, you're going to be all out of whack. Combine a dangerous movement with fatigue and you're asking for problems.

It is sad to see this incident and to see how Crossfit has evolved. What used to be a bunch of people trying to get into shape using all different kinds of exercises, that had substantial education and demonstration, and that had at least a modicum of methodology, has evolved into a "sport" that invents bizarre "exercise movements," worships blood and danger, ridicules people who don't put their bodies on the line, and then prides itself on these aspects. It is a shame, really, because the "old" Crossfit was pretty good. I dabbled for a bit back in like 2006-7 at a point when there were no "Games" or competitions, no "WODgear" stores or Crossfit targeted supplements, just people who thought it was fun and wanted to be in better condition.
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post #38640 of 46334
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Originally Posted by speedy4500 View Post

Looks like the weight was a bit behind him and couldn't hold it coming up, fell backwards onto his ass and didn't push away from the barbell, which then crashed onto his upper back. Being that he was dumping, he wasn't braced for the barbell hitting him again. You can definitely see the moment when he legs just go "numb" for lack of a better word. I looked at other videos of him and he appears to have fairly sound technique. I often take ~300 lbs from overhead to front or btn rack, but that's under complete control of the barbell, my entire body engaged to receive the weight, and legs to help cushion the impact. I guarantee that this guy has also frequently did similar things, but in this case he just was not prepared at all to have the weight come onto his body at a weird trajectory and sheared or compressed his spine in a really REALLY bad way.

I've never been one of the Crossfit hater bandwagon peeps, and ultimately it is the athlete's decision to partake in these events, but in the case I think the Crossfit leaders need to re-evaluate what they're doing. Having a 3-rep touch-n-go snatch for max load as one of nine events in a three day competition is pretty absurd. Hell, 3-rep touch-n-go snatch for max load is pretty ridiculous in and of itself; you ask any good weight lifter and one of the most important factors to making lifts is staying tight throughout and hitting positions. If you're doing touch-n-go, you're going to be all out of whack. Combine a dangerous movement with fatigue and you're asking for problems.

It is sad to see this incident and to see how Crossfit has evolved. What used to be a bunch of people trying to get into shape using all different kinds of exercises, that had substantial education and demonstration, and that had at least a modicum of methodology, has evolved into a "sport" that invents bizarre "exercise movements," worships blood and danger, ridicules people who don't put their bodies on the line, and then prides itself on these aspects. It is a shame, really, because the "old" Crossfit was pretty good. I dabbled for a bit back in like 2006-7 at a point when there were no "Games" or competitions, no "WODgear" stores or Crossfit targeted supplements, just people who thought it was fun and wanted to be in better condition.

Yes, the body has some amazing mechanisms to get out of the way of danger. Everyone who has missed a snatch over head has experienced this: either jumping forward at lightning fast speed, pushing the weight forward to dump it in front of you, or somehow pressing against the weight so it only mildly crashes on you. It seems like this fight of flight mechanism decreases a ton if you're doing some sort of metcon then olympic lifts. I'm not saying Crossfit is to blame either, but I'm not sure if doing tabata 3x then max tripples on snatch was a smart idea.
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