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Also, I guess I don't get the whole reverse dieting thing. The most common variation I hear about is just adding 100 cals/day one week at a time until you reach maintenance. So wait, if I am cutting on a -700cal deficit, that means I have to eat at a deficit for another six weeks and continue losing weight?

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This is me speculating -- but I think "reverse dieting" came about from people overestimating what their daily caloric needs where and ending up in a surplus faster than they expected. I think if you have a decent estimate of what your true daily needs are(bodybugg, whatever else), there's not any reason you couldn't just start at maintenance.
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Originally Posted by Coldsnap View Post

You could stay year round at 10% BF?

Oh, easily. There's dudes out there who maintain 8%, though that's a little more effort than I'm willing to put in.

In fact, after this bulk cycle I don't really ever intend on going above 12% again.
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Agree on most ponts, TK.
I feel good when I'm in total control of things so counting cals don't bother me a bit. I like it better than guestimating my macros.

And yup, I think reverse dieting came about as a safety net to not overshoot your calories too fast. It could also be a way to not go bonkers when you're coming out of the cut. I think some people need that strictness. 100 calories a week seems too little to me. Like i said I added 300 every two weeks or so.

Coldsnap:
Martin Berkhan sits at 5-6% year round. I managed to stay sub 10% for several months after I ended my cut while gaining size and strength. It's just a matter of discipline and I think calorie / carb cycling helps a bit. I could've bulked faster for sure, and I don't think I'll cut as far next time.
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Probably already quoted in here. But when people ask me for tips on how to get the body they want, I always tell them this. 

 

post #36665 of 49419
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Originally Posted by TKJTG View Post

Also, I guess I don't get the whole reverse dieting thing. The most common variation I hear about is just adding 100 cals/day one week at a time until you reach maintenance. So wait, if I am cutting on a -700cal deficit, that means I have to eat at a deficit for another six weeks and continue losing weight?

no-thanks.gif

This is me speculating -- but I think "reverse dieting" came about from people overestimating what their daily caloric needs where and ending up in a surplus faster than they expected. I think if you have a decent estimate of what your true daily needs are(bodybugg, whatever else), there's not any reason you couldn't just start at maintenance.
The thought process behind slowly adding calories back is when you are cutting your body is constantly trying to reach homeostasis, so your body will slow your metabolism down so you are not losing weight anymore. If your metabolism is slow that 700 calories is going to cause your body to store most of it as fat. If you add Calories slowly You will Be focusing on recovering your damaged metabolism. That's what I understand the theory to be.
post #36666 of 49419
Even so, that doesnt explain why you can't just jump to maintenance, accounting for your new lowered maintenance level, for a few weeks before beginning your bulk.
post #36667 of 49419
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Originally Posted by TKJTG View Post

Also, I guess I don't get the whole reverse dieting thing. The most common variation I hear about is just adding 100 cals/day one week at a time until you reach maintenance. So wait, if I am cutting on a -700cal deficit, that means I have to eat at a deficit for another six weeks and continue losing weight?

no-thanks.gif

This is me speculating -- but I think "reverse dieting" came about from people overestimating what their daily caloric needs where and ending up in a surplus faster than they expected. I think if you have a decent estimate of what your true daily needs are(bodybugg, whatever else), there's not any reason you couldn't just start at maintenance.

IDK mayne I have heard a lot of pretty ripped bodybuilders speak highly of it from experience. Most notably Matt Ogus. Broscientifically it kind of makes sense. If you are in a deficit for a long time and then you spike your calories your body is gonna look to store that. But if you gradually bring your calories up you probably won't store as much fat, but you will get back into growth mode.
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Matt Ogus is also on gear, associates himself with Jeff Seid, and does gay-4-pay.
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Even so, that doesnt explain why you can't just jump to maintenance, accounting for your new lowered maintenance level, for a few weeks before beginning your bulk.
By the end of a cut your new maintenance level is not very far from, if not AT your deficit intake. So jumping up 100-200 calories each week may very well be your new maintenance. When I cut I will probably "reverse diet" by just staying at my cut intake but adding a second refeed day. That's about what it woud/should amount to I imagine.
post #36670 of 49419
dat motivation
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1040lb ivanko roezh plus tree. A little worn, particularly the 25s, but I'm still happy with them.
post #36672 of 49419
Day 2 of smolov after 7k run home back from work @ comfy pace.
7x5 easier than 6x6.

Descided to drop OHP from the routine as ohp & bp 4 days a week on the same days is too much (for me).
Now I gotta figure out on which day to DL.
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What in the actual fuck:
post #36674 of 49419
Started the RFL experiment today. Fiancee is skeptical and is now baking cinnamon raisin bread ffffuuuu.gif

I feel like one of those crazy supplement people now... creatine, whey, fish oil, multivitamin, zinc/magnesium/calcium, potassium gluconate, plus glucose for workout days and the EC stack (not telling her about that... she'll probably flip her shit becuz we all know ephedrine will kill you... she already thinks I'm going to die from the creatine).

Hoping to get from the 205+ I'm at now down to at least 195, and hopefully more like 190.
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Beat me to it Jarude was gonna post the shit out of that fucking hell hope he hits 500!

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