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The fifth ave. repair drop crotch pants legacy continues. I am now in possession of the poopy diaper ass pants icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

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Originally Posted by jarude View Post

Diet thoughts brahs:
WWYD?:

This is just my personal opinion and experience from my first meet but I would use that 16-20 weeks to focus on training and not diet. If you want to lean out a bit more I'd stay at 200 and just start cycling carbs, eating only your carbs before, during, and after your workout then eating only carbs from vegetables on your off days. Peaking for a meet can be pretty damn stressful on your body and I wouldn't want to do that at a caloric deficit.
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Originally Posted by jarude View Post

WWYD?

Since it's your first competition, I'd probably just cut to whatever it is you want to end up at and compete at that bodyweight. Especially if you're not going after the numbers.

Charly can probably elucidate me on this more but making weight in PL where weigh in is like the day before or something to this effect is probably strategic. In that you can and probably want to do some pretty drastic dehydration cut before weigh in and bloat up before lifting. Something to the effect of 3-5 kg i think isn't unheard of. In weightlifting where weigh-ins are 2 hours before competition it's a much smaller window to get back those fluids since you have to be snatching in such a short time.
post #36603 of 47639
I'd just eat maintenance. There's a point of diminishing returns on bulks and it makes cutting that much more painful.
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I weighed in an hour before lifting at my meet. There's going to be people squatting 450+ in the 181s anyways, don't risk injury just to come in 8th place
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Originally Posted by Coldsnap View Post

The fifth ave. repair drop crotch pants legacy continues. I am now in possession of the poopy diaper ass pants icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
This is just my personal opinion and experience from my first meet but I would use that 16-20 weeks to focus on training and not diet. If you want to lean out a bit more I'd stay at 200 and just start cycling carbs, eating only your carbs before, during, and after your workout then eating only carbs from vegetables on your off days. Peaking for a meet can be pretty damn stressful on your body and I wouldn't want to do that at a caloric deficit.

Yeah, I don't want diet to get in the way of strength gains, but with that being said, most of my training is sub-maximal. I figure I should be able to stay fueled up for big days while dropping calories a bit on days that I only front squat to 80% or something. Might need to actually pay attention to macros now.

Ultimately I just need to do it and see what happens before I theorize on why it will or won't work out. I don't think 20lbs is too much of a stretch for the timeframe though since water weight alone might account for a good portion of it.
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Originally Posted by Lagrangian View Post

Since it's your first competition, I'd probably just cut to whatever it is you want to end up at and compete at that bodyweight. Especially if you're not going after the numbers.

Charly can probably elucidate me on this more but making weight in PL where weigh in is like the day before or something to this effect is probably strategic. In that you can and probably want to do some pretty drastic dehydration cut before weigh in and bloat up before lifting. Something to the effect of 3-5 kg i think isn't unheard of. In weightlifting where weigh-ins are 2 hours before competition it's a much smaller window to get back those fluids since you have to be snatching in such a short time.

Fair enough. Weigh-in is 1 hour beforehand though and I don't want to deal with crazy hydration strategies for my first meet; just want to go 9/9. Stupid IPF; 1 hour weigh-ins and no knee wraps.
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Originally Posted by TKJTG View Post

I'd just eat maintenance. There's a point of diminishing returns on bulks and it makes cutting that much more painful.

Agree... I haven't been going anywhere diet-wise for a few months anyways so I feel like its time for a change.
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granted I know fuck all about different feds and their weigh in regulations, just read somewhere that some have like 12-24 hr time periods after weigh ins
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Originally Posted by Lagrangian View Post

granted I know fuck all about different feds and their weigh in regulations, just read somewhere that some have like 12-24 hr time periods after weigh ins

I know you're just trying to help fistbump.gif I think hitting 181 for the sake of hitting 181 is just as valid too though, just need to see how things go.
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Sorry I found this insanely hilarious:




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I wish anavar costed as much as smarties.
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I wish anavar costed as much as smarties.
They are like 2 dollars a piece. Not exactly breaking the bank.
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Got 750 on the GMAT, 98th percentile. Holy fucking shit I've never done this well in practice tests even. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
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We president now?
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Jarude:
Just do a regular IF / carb backloading cut. Maintenance calories with carb backloading after lifting 3 times a week and the rest of the days no carbs and heavy deficit. That just works and is really easy to adhere to.

It might not gel that good with your frequent lifting. If that's the case, I'd just do a straight deficit all days with only carbs post workout, low fat all days. 1 heavy carb up with super low fat and moderate protein 1 time each week.

Lifting fasted early in the day or with no carbs pre workout makes you burn fat. Might wanna try that.
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Why do you say low fat? I'm currently doing a 6 day deficit with moderately low carb, moderate to high fat, high protein, with one carb refeed day just as you said (low fat, moderate protein). It's been working very well so far, averaging over a pound a week and lifts are still climbing slowly.
post #36615 of 47639
Fat and carb intake is highly individual, but I recommended it specifically for Jarude since he now lifts very frequently. Carbs are still the body's preferred source of energy and substituting fat for more carbs could help him get through the daily squatting.

If you lift less frequently, like 2-3x a week, you wouldn't need that much carbs and carb cycling / carb timing could work better. I was on a 3 split on my cut with zero carbs on rest days.

Either way, the most important stuff is just to hit that deficit and get high protein, especially if you have low carbs (carbs are muscle sparing).
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