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post #31471 of 46470
Rippetoe really gets the jimmies rustled.
post #31472 of 46470
But look at his juicy foundation of strength.
post #31473 of 46470
yeh the first one has that amazon-woman i'll-crush-your-face-with-my-thighs thing going for her. i agree on the rest being ugh, though. california strength has some lookers there too

calorie surplus bros who like pancakes, i have a bitchin recipe:

http://www.canadianfamily.ca/recipe/apple-oatmeal-pancakes/
post #31474 of 46470
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Originally Posted by TKJTG View Post


This will probably read like mind vomit but I was actually thinking about this shit today on the plane. Stuck on the plane and all I had was The Texas Method book to read / re read. Justin is a decent blogger but a terrible book writer, I've skimmed the book twice before but still had to re-read some sections 3-4x to understand what he's really trying to say.. Anyways, this guy above might be in a better place than everyone here, not counting Charly, I never count Charly. He's thick in the right places giving him good leverage and if he has good motor pathways then he probably out squats, deadlifts, and benches more than anyone here except Charly (again don't count Charly). The fact is that Starting Strength and Texas Method will leave you with some muscle imbalances that society has deemed you need to have in order to look like you lift: thick neck, traps and delts. You can try to address it during the program, but the extra volume will eat up your recovery for your strength progression if you are really doing the program right.

That's the question - To go full swolertrophy or to go full strength. They are two separate masters in my opinion and you cannot serve both if you are a beginner. The people we see who have a great figure and are also strong, like the author of Texas Method - Justin and Charly, people who we look up to are able to serve both masters because they are alot further into their fitness career than beginners / novices and I betcha their programs look a ton more different now from when they started.

That is where my quandary lies, which master to serve. As I've said here November is about when I was able to lift 100% again and go back on LP. So I had about a solid 7-8 months of strength training with the slow yet steady 5/3/1. I made progress with it, progress is progress and I've out paced people in my gym who were on Smolov and Sheiko because I had constant and steady gains with no resets. I posted here a few months ago that six months of training my squat deadlift went up 60-80lbs, bench and press about 30-40lbs, and bodyweight went from 160-185ish. I've now switched over to a mostly bodybuilding assistance work template to get things like arms, delts, and triceps to catch up to my new body shape, but I can't help to think I'm spinning my wheels now and I should do this much later in the process. I'm heavily considering doing Texas Method, I don't want to be a program flip flopper. I feel like 8 months of 5/3/1 is a good enough judgement call to compare it to something else I might do. So if I switch over I'm going to have to dedicate 10 months to it which sorta scares me because that's a lot of months of the same movement.

I'm going to finish this last week of 5/3/1 and heavily consider it while talking to the two guys in my gym that did Texas Method until it ran out then did 5/3/1 type stuff after.
post #31475 of 46470
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Originally Posted by TKJTG View Post


Strong dirty bulk.
post #31476 of 46470
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Originally Posted by Towers View Post

Strong dirty bulk.

***Body by Rippetoe***
post #31477 of 46470
I agree that you can't go 100% hypertrophy and 100% strength at the same time. Unless you're a God like Mike O'Hearn or Ronnie Coleman.




^hnnnnng my hero inlove.gif
post #31478 of 46470
Doesn't look very strong. Just looks really fat. Doubt he's hitting the 405/315/495 or anything like that. By thick in the right places do you mean having a massive stomach? Even if he was hitting those numbers I wouldn't say he's in a better place then everyone here. It's not like conceptionist is saying "when will it be my turn for man boobs?".


edit: fat ripptoe guy, not mike ohearn obvs.
post #31479 of 46470
I guess arguing what his numbers are is pointless unless it's posted online somewhere. But I'd wager he squats easily over 480 and deads over 550, at least he should lol. Just look at Brent who was a past Ripp lifter, he's like 150 and can squat 450 easily and he's a total whiny bitch.
post #31480 of 46470
Before we get too deep into SS as physique destroyer, here is what sqatz and oatz and whole milk did for me in ~6 months;

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I've backed off on the squats (lol 285) but I still pull over 4 beltless on my deadlift. Maybe the kid cheated on his diet or didn't push himself? That's the problem with anecdotal stories.
post #31481 of 46470
nice progress!
post #31482 of 46470
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Originally Posted by Coldsnap View Post

This will probably read like mind vomit .

i like you man, but i really think this kind of thinking is what fucks people right over in their training. it's a mess of confirmation bias and brooding over endless unimportant shit.

1. are my main lifts progressing?
-if yes, assistance work is doing it's job. continue on.
-if no, adjust
2. am i progressing to where i want to be aesthetically?
-if yes, assistance work is doing its job. continue on.
-if not, adjust

in your situation, you have one and two. why on earth would you feel that you're spinning your tires? your past experience, "rippetoe said so" and the do-what-swole-guy's-doing fallacy is putting shit in your head thats making you consider program-flopping. your shit is working; your brain should stop right there.
post #31483 of 46470
Strength = hypertrophy

Yes if you are training for powerlifting comps you prob need a more focused approach but you can't get big w/o being strong too. You might not have the neural strength or adaptation for 1RM stuff on a BB aproach but you also aren't going to get 16-17" arms moving light weight.

People need to stop being afraid of getting temporarily fat. 2-3 summers w/o a 6 pack to be aesthetic for 20-30 yrs seems like a good bargain to me.
post #31484 of 46470
On his channel he says he's been lifting for 7 years, which is a pretty long time though I am miring that triple bw squat. Guy in the picture was some high school kid who wanted to get bigger for some sport I think. Doubt rippletits got him to a 6 plate pull in his 2 years of highschool.


Lol my bodybuilding mate who I've posted photos of has 17.5" arms now and he's weak as fuck. Db benches 35kg dbs and squats 100. Was spotting him on db overhead press a few days ago, got 5 reps with 30s.
post #31485 of 46470
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Originally Posted by jarude View Post

i like you man, but i really think this kind of thinking is what fucks people right over in their training. it's a mess of confirmation bias and brooding over endless unimportant shit.

1. are my main lifts progressing?
-if yes, assistance work is doing it's job. continue on.
-if no, adjust
2. am i progressing to where i want to be aesthetically?
-if yes, assistance work is doing its job. continue on.
-if not, adjust

in your situation, you have one and two. why on earth would you feel that you're spinning your tires? your past experience, "rippetoe said so" and the do-what-swole-guy's-doing fallacy is putting shit in your head thats making you consider program-flopping. your shit is working; your brain should stop right there.

I couldn't agree with you more. It's a slippery slope but I tend to analyze if I would be making more progress doing X instead of Y. Grass is always greener on the other side, but at the end of the day progress is progress.
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