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post #31441 of 47681
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Originally Posted by MarkI View Post

And he looks amazing, no doubts about that, but I say this with total respect he does not have much mass.
That BF% plus like 20-30 lbs of muscle would be dope.
But that's just my view on things, if you wanna be shredded aushwitz mode, like it was not so tactfully said here, thats your call dawg.

Of course I agree he would look better with more mass. It's just about how I want to get there. Not on any time table, so I'd rather look good first by cutting than bulk to cut a couple months off of achieving the end result.
post #31442 of 47681
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Originally Posted by VLSI View Post

Of course I agree he would look better with more mass. It's just about how I want to get there. Not on any time table, so I'd rather look good first by cutting than bulk to cut a couple months off of achieving the end result.

I think someone in this thread saying that's akin to taking two steps backwards, to go one step forwards.

I wanted to do the same thing, but then I thought about it, my number are hardly great, underneath the fat I do have there is not much muscle. Why fucking put yourself through the headache and trouble of cutting down to nothing, only to have this "clean slate?" It's so much wasted time that could be spent getting stronger. And I don't know about you, but for the week that I did "cut" I found it so demotivating to see my lifts stall, or suffer. It feels so much better walking into the gym everyday and breaking PRs.

All i'm saying, is that maybe swallowing ones pride and letting go of vanity for a couple of months might be a better means to an end.

But yeah, I dunno. My opinion. Different strokes for different folks eh
post #31443 of 47681
I want a gymnast body.

So wrist wraps? Correct way to do them?

Oops I meant wrist straps.
Edited by indesertum - 7/12/13 at 8:44pm
post #31444 of 47681
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Originally Posted by VLSI View Post

Of course I agree he would look better with more mass. It's just about how I want to get there. Not on any time table, so I'd rather look good first by cutting than bulk to cut a couple months off of achieving the end result.
You will cut one way or another... why not do it once you have some mass, instead of a hundred times w/no muscle?
post #31445 of 47681
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Originally Posted by Cool The Kid View Post

You will cut one way or another... why not do it once you have some mass, instead of a hundred times w/no muscle?

Because I'm tired of being fat frown.gif Been fat forever.
post #31446 of 47681
frown.gif me too

I want to set conceptionists photo as my phone background
post #31447 of 47681
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Originally Posted by jarude View Post

says who? i think the only people who are outspoken advocates of bodybuilding routines/disregard strength are TK and cool the kid. TK did a bb show and cool the kid has an irrational fear of squatting/deadlifting and strength training. no hate, but i think this post is largely coloured by rhet's latest period. most of the posters itt are talking about lift pr's, not the sickening quadruple drop set arm pump they got on today.

plenty of people seem to be suggesting that it's wrong to suggest a strength-based routine to a noob who wants to look good.

I absolutely agree that the BB vs PL is overplayed, since most of the good routines are similar. Most BB upper body exercises would focus on OHP, bent over row, bench press, weighted pullups...which is pretty much the same as a PL routine, with a few assistance exercises chucked in.

That's what I don't really understand. It seems pretty unanimous that getting stronger requires muscle gain, there's not much difference between the programs anyway...so I don't really get what's wrong with a strength based routines for a noob.
post #31448 of 47681
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Originally Posted by MarkI View Post

I'm bordering 5 11, does this make me potential manlet?

 

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Originally Posted by TKJTG View Post


5'10" is considered "King of Manlets" from what I've seen. 5'11" puts you in "Manaverage" category.

 

The average male height is usually dependant on what country you are in too, most non-us countries the average male height is 5"8, where as in the u.s. it's 5"10.

 

In regards to the bb vs pl discussion, if you are just starting out, you are going to get stronger at bench etc. whether you are doing 3x12 or 3x1, strength and bodybuilding are hand in hand, even if you are not focusing on a 1RM you are training your muscles to get stronger, to lift more weight, the only difference with non-bb is you are just not doing extra isolation movements to fatigue the muscles even further.

 

Usually most bb routines are safer and are less taxing on the body too, I train bb myself so my opinion may be biased.

post #31449 of 47681
180cm here. Did I make the cut off?

There is compelling hormone research done on fat:muscle gain ratios being more favourable if you're starting from a leaner state, but no study is bulletproof.

Also for the fellow who asked about wrist wrapping (twice):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glHfEtdde0M
post #31450 of 47681
Testing out box jumps.

Got into a accident, needed stitches on my right shin so cannot train for 2 weeks ffffuuuu.gifffffuuuu.gifffffuuuu.gifffffuuuu.gifffffuuuu.gifffffuuuu.gifffffuuuu.gifffffuuuu.gifffffuuuu.gifffffuuuu.gif
Edited by Flame - 7/13/13 at 12:57am
post #31451 of 47681
I've said this many times already, but cutting down to that bf % was not that tough and did not make my lifting suffer a whole lot. The reason I did the cut was that bulk I just came off hadn't been very successful. And yes, I was eating enough with close to 4000 cals on lifting days and 3300 on rest days. Actually got weaker in relation to my weight gain, since my pull ups went down.

The dieting was simply a waiting game. I choose to cut weight slowly. Lost no more than 1 pound a week max while managing to put 35 lbs on my front squat, 15 lbs on my bench and a lot more pull ups during those 10 or so weeks. It was only the last weeks that I started to get some problems with my concentration and lifts stalled, but not dropped. So two steps back? Not really.

I'm now on a slower bulk than last fall knowing that I can probably gain 25 pounds without going over 13-14% bf. Had I tried that before the cut I'd end up at 20%, feeling miserable about myself with a long ass cut in front of me.

I hear what you guys advocating a stronger bulk first are saying but this way is more motivating for me, and that what's counts. I've also found that most simply-wanting-to-look-good-newbies think the same. It makes more sense to them to lose the excess fat first and the changes they see in the mirror are usually enough to keep them on track. Most of these guys do not like the thought of gaining weight, muscle or fat but after the cut they always realize they have to gain at some point.
post #31452 of 47681
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Originally Posted by Cool The Kid View Post


Im a manlet king (5' 10") and 190lbs + bulking. Most of my weight is in my legs

Here is a good article from a guy who is smarter + in better shape than me about this

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/squat-versus-leg-press-for-big-legs.html

Squats aren't bad but they're not for everyone and not necessary for big legs.

 

Also http://www.romanfitnesssystems.com/blog/no-more-back-squats/

post #31453 of 47681
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Originally Posted by Flame View Post

Testing out box jumps.

Got into a accident, needed stitches on my right shin so cannot train for 2 weeks ffffuuuu.gifffffuuuu.gifffffuuuu.gifffffuuuu.gifffffuuuu.gifffffuuuu.gifffffuuuu.gifffffuuuu.gifffffuuuu.gifffffuuuu.gif

 

That's unfortunate. Get well soon, and then...

 

Stand up at the top of the box jump. It's important to hit the landing solid and be able to stand. 

post #31454 of 47681
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Originally Posted by Cool The Kid View Post

Im a manlet king (5' 10") and 190lbs + bulking. Most of my weight is in my legs

Here is a good article from a guy who is smarter + in better shape than me about this

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/squat-versus-leg-press-for-big-legs.html

Squats aren't bad but they're not for everyone and not necessary for big legs.

*EDIT* Plus you are in a sport where squat is king so that may skew your perceptions of what's normal/necessary.
there are sports in which squats aren't helpful? I guess golf or something.
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Originally Posted by Flame View Post

Testing out box jumps.

Got into a accident, needed stitches on my right shin so cannot train for 2 weeks ffffuuuu.gifffffuuuu.gifffffuuuu.gifffffuuuu.gifffffuuuu.gifffffuuuu.gifffffuuuu.gifffffuuuu.gifffffuuuu.gifffffuuuu.gif
This looks fucking scary. Does your gym not have real boxes?
post #31455 of 47681
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Originally Posted by fuji View Post

By correctly you mean wrapping it kind of like a spiral so it covers a wider surface area up to the bottom of your hand and not just over itself a bunch of times right? I use the biggest length of titan THPs, they're massive over kill, make my hands go numb and change colour as well as being very painful, but fuck that stability man. Don't even have to think about squeezing my hands, they must crush a nerve or something that forces my palms closed. Makes db bench feel like i'm using a hammer strength machine. My dad got some short standard inzers and for most purposes they'd be fine and you can bare to wear them for more then a few minutes.

Numbness + pain = good wrap haha smile.gif

I can get a video of how to properly wrap wrists later today.

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Originally Posted by Cool The Kid View Post

Im a manlet king (5' 10") and 190lbs + bulking. Most of my weight is in my legs

Here is a good article from a guy who is smarter + in better shape than me about this

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/squat-versus-leg-press-for-big-legs.html

Squats aren't bad but they're not for everyone and not necessary for big legs.

*EDIT* Plus you are in a sport where squat is king so that may skew your perceptions of what's normal/necessary.

Oh, so you're not that skinny or tall. smile.gif

But anyways, that article starts off by saying you don't need to back squat/front squat but then only explains gives his opinion on why back squats aren't necessary.

I'm telling you this for experience from me, other guys, and just what I've seen with huge dudes that are strong as fuck, you gotta squat. Not it helps with overall muscularity and brings all your other lifts up. Fuck any kind of science involved. Dummy up and squat. It'll make you a better lifter and blow your legs up.


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Originally Posted by Gerry Nelson View Post

Also http://www.romanfitnesssystems.com/blog/no-more-back-squats/

That article doesn't support his point.. only mine. So you don't want to back squat, then front squat lol.. as long as your main do to lower body movement ain't a fucking leg press.
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