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post #31021 of 57259
Just ripped ass while dead lifting, whoops. First time that's happened hahaha
post #31022 of 57259
Crossfit "doesn't make you good at everything". "Everything" is incredibly specialized, with a lot of mental & coordination issues specific to each sport.
post #31023 of 57259
Crossfit is a good all round workout, for people who don't want to live at the gym.
post #31024 of 57259
I'm going to have to echo that.. I don't agree that crossfit makes you good at everything.

Is crossfit good for conditioning? Sure (although, I think there are much easier and safer ways to build up conditioning).

In theory, crossfit would perfect your oly lift technique, would make you strong, build endurance, and make you good as those seizure-induced pullups. BUTTTTTTT with a "sport" that relies so heavily on coaching,(so much so that every single crossfit gym I've seen can only be used through classes), crossfitters' skill set/technique will only be as "good" as their "coaches." And for the most part, crossfit trainers suck ass and have no idea what they're doing.

Note, that I'm not disregarding ALL crossfit trainers.. I'm certain there are a lot of guys out there who are very capable to teaching their trainees good form and technique while still pushing them hard. My friend is friends with Scott Paltos and I've seen his videos and his ramblings, and he knows his stuff... but then again that guy has a background in football, baseball, powerlifting, and strongman. smile.gif




TL:DR, For the majority of people, crossfit is okay for some conditioning.. but "good" at "everything"? LOL
post #31025 of 57259
just got my almost two year old prescription revised. shit it's like I instantly switched from 240p to HD in youtube.

so mad jelly of you 20/20 guys
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Originally Posted by mrchariybrown View Post

In theory, crossfit would perfect your oly lift technique

no, it really wouldn't.

agreed on the coaching thing 100%.
Edited by Lagrangian - 7/5/13 at 8:21am
post #31026 of 57259
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Originally Posted by Kid Nickels View Post

No... just google crossfit. It's an all-around workout regime. There are all kinds of whack crossfit gyms popping up around LA. I don't know why any one would PAY to go workout in a place like that.


Would pay to lift at a crossfit facility if they weren't like $200 a month and i didn't have to have a group of over zealous 30 year olds who think they'e athletes yell motivational slogans at me during each set because they generally have pretty good equipment. You don't really hear about it in England though, but whenever I lift on the military base gym theres always some guy doing cleans in a gas mask or something.
post #31027 of 57259
also before shitstorm, josh is probably one of the few non koolaid-drinking guys doing @fit, which is i think the most laughed at aspect.

@fit is probably super ok for ppl who don't really have specific goals or are not intending to compete in a specific sport. If one is however, it makes almost no sense to go after a specific skillset with nonspecific training.
post #31028 of 57259
I feel like a lift/sprint/swim A/B/C day routine would yield the same results, be safer and not cost the $$$ & soul content of X-fit

But to each their own. I know a few guys who got into it who wouldn't have got into exercise at all otherwise.
post #31029 of 57259
I mean, I play pick up ball and soccer on the weekends or days off, but I don't think my doing a strength/bodybuilding workout directly improves my performance in either. I just lift because it feels good, and it makes me look good.

I'm not going to pretend I'm doing it for any other reasons, I think these crossfit people are just lying to themselves, how many of these "athletes" actually play a sport?

It's like a cult
post #31030 of 57259
Doing Crossfit doesn't make you good at everything, it makes you good at doing Crossfit.

It's a fantastic program for those people who don't have any defined goals and equate a "good workout" with feeling gassed and pukey rather than actually progressing. It's good for people who like to check "workout" off their list of things to do for the day and move along with their lives. It's good for people who want to take off their shirt at the beach and not feel as embarrassed as they used to.

And most of all, it's really fucking good for people who actually hate exercise but can tolerate it with a sense of competition, group liability, and quick workouts. They even advertise how short their workouts are specifically to target that crowd.
post #31031 of 57259
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Originally Posted by MarkI View Post

I mean, I play pick up ball and soccer on the weekends or days off, but I don't think my doing a strength/bodybuilding workout directly improves my performance in either. I just lift because it feels good, and it makes me look good.

I'm not going to pretend I'm doing it for any other reasons, I think these crossfit people are just lying to themselves, how many of these "athletes" actually play a sport?

It's like a cult

1. Get gainz
2. Drive into paint
3. Power through people's block attempts
4. Score

Pretty easy direct improvement. And it's fun as hell. Obviously it only works up to a certain point, no matter how much stronger you get. A 5 foot tall guy built like a tank won't get through an NBA center consistently.
post #31032 of 57259

To be clear, the claim wasn't the Crossfit makes people good at everything, it was that it makes people competent at everything. There's a big difference between competent and good. Competent is defined as "adequate but not exceptional." I think this is a fair assessment of Crossfit. It will make you an adequate Oly lifter, runner, etc. 

 

I also think one of the things that gets overlooked by critics is that like it or not, Crossfit has created more interest in power lifting and olympic lifting than there's been in the US in a long time, maybe ever. 

 

As far as coaching, I agree 100 percent. I got really lucky early on to have coaches who both knew what they were talking about and wouldn't let new athletes get into dangerous situations. While traveling, I've dropped into some Crossfit gyms that I wouldn't recommend to anyone. 

post #31033 of 57259
The thing that chaps my ass is that the whole 'crossfit is a sport' thing feels like a gimmick to sell more franchises, and they present the crossfit games competitors as the pinnacle of natural athletic performance, but have a super weak testing policy which pretty much anyone with half a brain could beat.

plus dumb shit like this;

post #31034 of 57259
maybe Steiner and Velagic do crossfit?

post #31035 of 57259
do they also do this;




or this;

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