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post #30856 of 57266
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Originally Posted by GraphicNovelty View Post

I'd strong bulk first honestly. Become a big old bear and then surprise my friends and acquaintances when i shred all of the fat and be aesthetic as fuuuark.
I keep wavering between this and cutting. Especially since the last few weeks I can just tell I'm bigger and stronger, and its awesome. I want to be aesthetic too though, it's a slippery slope.

I guess in the end it's better to cut down, then slow bulk and maintain aesthetics somewhat but get bigger as well
post #30857 of 57266
i mean whatever makes you feel best. Going full bearmode and bulking up hard looks like more fun and will get you to a higher endpoint faster than slow bulking but being fat sucks.

Something to think about though: at your BF% getting abs will take long enough that summer will mostly be over, so you can maybe get a head start on next summer? You'd have time to put on quite a bit of mass between now and february of next year (which is when you'd probably want to start cutting for summer)
post #30858 of 57266
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Something to think about though: at your BF% getting abs will take long enough that summer will mostly be over, so you can maybe get a head start on next summer? You'd have time to put on quite a bit of mass between now and february of next year (which is when you'd probably want to start cutting for summer)

Where I live winter is when outdoor activities happen, Summer is too damn hot, which gives me a couple more months to really lean out.
post #30859 of 57266
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Originally Posted by VLSI View Post

Where I live winter is when outdoor activities happen, Summer is too damn hot, which gives me a couple more months to really lean out.

this is so strange. being on the beach in florida in november was messing with my head, man
post #30860 of 57266
Yeah I'm going to be fat in summer and lean out for rugby season.

Fat as in really fat. I'm trying to put on 10kgs
post #30861 of 57266
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Originally Posted by GraphicNovelty View Post

i mean whatever makes you feel best. Going full bearmode and bulking up hard looks like more fun and will get you to a higher endpoint faster than slow bulking but being fat sucks.

Something to think about though: at your BF% getting abs will take long enough that summer will mostly be over, so you can maybe get a head start on next summer? You'd have time to put on quite a bit of mass between now and february of next year (which is when you'd probably want to start cutting for summer)
Dude, I really had not even though about that... Somehow I had this fantasy in my head that I'd be able to get to at least 12% by August while retaining most of my mass. Now that I think about it that's highly unrealistic...

But why start cutting in February? That's pretty early, or do I just not know what I'm taking about. To be aesthetic by may you think beginning a cut in February is the way to go?
post #30862 of 57266
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Originally Posted by jarude View Post

this is so strange. being on the beach in florida in november was messing with my head, man

Was almost 120F (~49C) on Saturday...
post #30863 of 57266
49 degrees. fuck. that's ridiculous
post #30864 of 57266
depends on how shredded you really want to get/how much fat you put on in the mean time. Obviously since you're starting slightly higher than a normal bulk/cut cycle you'd want to start cutting earlier. I think most people start cutting around march?
post #30865 of 57266
the thing is, all of this is a learning process. I slow bulked but wished i bulked a bit faster because it took me a long time to reach a point that i liked. I also didn't have my nutrition and training dialed in.

Coldsnap is an advocate of getting fat, but he's more interested in getting strong.

TK might have some insight as well.

I guess like, relish every step in the process. But if you add a steady 1-1.5 lb a week that's a good 30-40 lbs by early next year. Cut 15 of those and you'll probably be in a real good place.
post #30866 of 57266
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Originally Posted by VLSI View Post

My body shape is embarrassing though. I wouldn't mind a bigger stomach so much, I hardly have one, but dem love handles fucking god awful.

This is dumb, think how much smaller your love handles will look with 10 more lbs of muscle on your frame. I went from skinny fat 180 to solid 210 in 12 months and look much better. Wish I could still pack on weight like them beginner gains frown.gif
post #30867 of 57266
I've never met anyone who did a clean bulk from 150 and ended up with a body that I want. I know it's possible but it just seems to be a trap for most people to spin their wheels for awhile.
post #30868 of 57266
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Originally Posted by GraphicNovelty View Post

depends on how shredded you really want to get/how much fat you put on in the mean time. Obviously since you're starting slightly higher than a normal bulk/cut cycle you'd want to start cutting earlier. I think most people start cutting around march?

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Originally Posted by GraphicNovelty View Post

the thing is, all of this is a learning process. I slow bulked but wished i bulked a bit faster because it took me a long time to reach a point that i liked. I also didn't have my nutrition and training dialed in.

Coldsnap is an advocate of getting fat, but he's more interested in getting strong.

TK might have some insight as well.

I guess like, relish every step in the process. But if you add a steady 1-1.5 lb a week that's a good 30-40 lbs by early next year. Cut 15 of those and you'll probably be in a real good place.

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Originally Posted by Towers View Post

This is dumb, think how much smaller your love handles will look with 10 more lbs of muscle on your frame. I went from skinny fat 180 to solid 210 in 12 months and look much better. Wish I could still pack on weight like them beginner gains frown.gif

Fuck it, i'm sold. I'm gonna bulk. In the back of my mind I did think I don't nearly have enough mass that i'll look that great if I cut to 8-12% at this point.

500 calories above maintenance is general rule of thumb for a bulk, yes?
post #30869 of 57266
That a boy. You're Chipotle bound.
post #30870 of 57266
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Originally Posted by GraphicNovelty View Post

the thing is, all of this is a learning process. I slow bulked but wished i bulked a bit faster because it took me a long time to reach a point that i liked. I also didn't have my nutrition and training dialed in.

Coldsnap is an advocate of getting fat, but he's more interested in getting strong.

TK might have some insight as well.

I guess like, relish every step in the process. But if you add a steady 1-1.5 lb a week that's a good 30-40 lbs by early next year. Cut 15 of those and you'll probably be in a real good place.

I agree^

Bodybuilding in general is a process of taking X steps forward and X steps back. If you "lean bulk", you're taking 1.5 steps forward and when you cut going 1 step backwards. This is fine if you're already swole as fuk, but if you don't have much mass on you it's going to result in a long drawn out process. Go a bit harder in your bulk and you can take 2-3 steps forward and when you cut go one step backwards. It's seriously MUCH easier to cut a little extra fat than it is to gain more muscle. A proper bulk is gonna take around 16-20 weeks, while a proper cut can be done in 8-12.

For some insight last year I bulked up 50 pounds and cut 35 for a net gain of 15 pounds of LBM.
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