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post #30826 of 57266
that's 500 calories more than what i had at my heaviest, for only 10 more lbs.

I know height/bf are probs different but that seems like a really big difference.
post #30827 of 57266
either way i don't think its of any huge consequence... its a starting point, so if he's fatting up, he can cut back.
post #30828 of 57266
i mean he's trying to cut.

eating 300 calories/day more than you're supposed to cuts the weight loss in half.
post #30829 of 57266
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Originally Posted by conceptionist View Post

Don't know if that was directed at me, but even though 3000 cals for every day is probably a bit much, my BodyBugg often show a hundred or two more than that on workout days. I bike a couple of miles every day and my workouts usually take 1.5 hours or a bit more. Also do some mobility work at home which adds some calories. Maybe genetics play a role about how easy you put on fat.

At one point on my last bulk, I ate 4000 and 3300 calories for rest/workout days and I only put on 15 lbs over 6 months.

Ah the biking would explain it. When I cycled long distances I think 12 miles was 1000 calories (around the Central Park loop)
post #30830 of 57266
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Originally Posted by GraphicNovelty View Post

i mean he's trying to cut.

eating 300 calories/day more than you're supposed to cuts the weight loss in half.

based on what the calculator says, which isn't the absolute last word on his metabolic needs, which was my point. its a starting point, not holy writ. 3000 may be too much, or it may not be.... i was pointing out how two guys have actually done this stuff in real life and have gotten impressive results are being informed that they are in fact wrong by someone who looked at a website and read something.
post #30831 of 57266
Yeah, anyway I'm not gonna eat that much this time around. Even though I made pretty fast size gains my relative strength actually decreased since my chins went down while bulking, lol.
post #30832 of 57266
idk i think undershoot your calories and then go up if you're losing strength is a better strategy than overshoot and then cut more if you're not losing fast enough, given that weight loss progress is a lot harder to track than strength, given the way weight fluctuates day to day.

Plus, he's not expressing that he's having difficulty with hunger etc.

3000 was a starting point from another calculation, i'm saying that from my experience, having both met mark and having made successful cuts myself from a similar weight range, 3000 seems high.
post #30833 of 57266
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Originally Posted by conceptionist View Post

I ate lbm x 1.5 in protein, which is 240g every day at 180. Most people recommend higher protein on a cut since there's a risk you'll lose muscle otherwise. Protein is also more satieting than carbs and fat.

On rest days, I kept carbs in the 50-80g range and fats 75-90g. For workout days, carbs were 320-350g and fats 40-50g. Take into consideration that I was leaner than you at the start of the cut (maybe 14%), which allows for more carbs. I also worked out less (3x a week) so I could eat more calories on workout days and still lose weight. Thisbis the basic LG protocol and is recommended for people in the 12-14% bf range.

In your position, I would do a once a week carb refeed at a small deficit or maintenance and basically do high protein, medium high fat keto macros every other day of the week (say 220-240p, 75-90f, 50-70c). Only eat veggies, berries and a fruit for carbs on rest days with lean and fatty meat and eggs for protein and fat. On workout days you add a lot of starchy carbs for the refeed and eat lean meat for protein. No direct sources for fat, as it should be kept low and come in trace amounts from the carbs and protein. Feel free to eat bread, cereals and the like post workout on the carb refeed day as long as the fat is low.

I think thats basically all you need to know smile.gif

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Originally Posted by GraphicNovelty View Post

idk i think undershoot your calories and then go up if you're losing strength is a better strategy than overshoot and then cut more if you're not losing fast enough, given that weight loss progress is a lot harder to track than strength, given the way weight fluctuates day to day.

Plus, he's not expressing that he's having difficulty with hunger etc.

3000 was a starting point from another calculation, i'm saying that from my experience, having both met mark and having made successful cuts myself from a similar weight range, 3000 seems high.

I too thought 3,000 was a bit high. I'm going to go middle of the road here, and evalute based on how i'm feeling/weight number. Going to eat 2300 on workout days, with the diet protocol conceptionist spoke of, and 1800 on rest days. After a month I will see where im at.
post #30834 of 57266
Two dudes were at the gym curling in the squat rack on Friday. With lifting gloves on. And they were only doing like the bar, plus 10 lbs. Seriously, use the fucking barbells that are made for that shit. How do these people not understand how obviously assholish it is to take up one of the two power racks to do this dumbass stuff?
post #30835 of 57266
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Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post

Two dudes were at the gym curling in the squat rack on Friday. With lifting gloves on. And they were only doing like the bar, plus 10 lbs. Seriously, use the fucking barbells that are made for that shit. How do these people not understand how obviously assholish it is to take up one of the two power racks to do this dumbass stuff?
I've seen this but the person actually brought dumbbells into the power rack and did curls in it.
post #30836 of 57266
Made a game plan up until my meet on November 2nd.

Competing at 93 kg, not going to really try to fill out the class and will probably weigh in at 195-200lbs. I'm going to do a solid 3 months of bodybuilding accessories and not press the main lifts any further than needed to make 10lb/5lb increase per month. This should fill out some of my weak areas in my delts, chest, biceps, quads and back that I think should carry over well. Then last few months leading up to competition I'm going to start introducing heavy singles and triples while working past my max with Joker Sets. I'm going to try and go 9/9 at the meet and just enjoy it.
post #30837 of 57266
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Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post

Two dudes were at the gym curling in the squat rack on Friday. With lifting gloves on. And they were only doing like the bar, plus 10 lbs. Seriously, use the fucking barbells that are made for that shit. How do these people not understand how obviously assholish it is to take up one of the two power racks to do this dumbass stuff?

Did you say something to them? Complaining about this shit, but not doing anything about it is just as bad in my opinion.

Some asshole was doing shitty partial squats with like 350lbs on the bar the other day, then moved to the leg extension. I asked him if he was done with the rack, he said yes, "oh it's kind of hard to tell when you've left all the weight on." he then came up and took it all off. might as well call the douches out for there behavior.

though im not so sure i woulda been a smartass if he was bigger than me, lawl. pick your battles amirite?
post #30838 of 57266
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Originally Posted by Coldsnap View Post

Made a game plan up until my meet on November 2nd.

Competing at 93 kg, not going to really try to fill out the class and will probably weigh in at 195-200lbs. I'm going to do a solid 3 months of bodybuilding accessories and not press the main lifts any further than needed to make 10lb/5lb increase per month. This should fill out some of my weak areas in my delts, chest, biceps, quads and back that I think should carry over well. Then last few months leading up to competition I'm going to start introducing heavy singles and triples while working past my max with Joker Sets. I'm going to try and go 9/9 at the meet and just enjoy it.

Looks like we'll be competing the same day in close weight classes.
post #30839 of 57266
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Originally Posted by TKJTG View Post

Bb.com no longer has Dymatize cafe mocha in 10lb boxes...fuark. Any recs for a tasty tein that comes in bulk?

I buy the 5lb bags of the premium whey isolate from www.canadianprotein.com. Tastes identical to Isoflex at significantly less.
post #30840 of 57266
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Originally Posted by mrchariybrown View Post

Looks like we'll be competing the same day in close weight classes.

Hell yea bruh. I'll shoot for 1/2 your total icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
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