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post #30526 of 46983
TKJTG learn me bodybuilding.

I'm guessing more variety of movements and work until failure and not worry about weight. So I would take my regular powerlifting bench day for example -

5/3/1 Bench
Chain Bench 5 x 10
Bent Over Rows 5 x 10
Pushups Feet Elevated 3 x F
Band Tricep Pushdowns 5 x 20

And instead do

5/3/1 Bench
Close Grip Bench 4 x 10
Chest Flys 3 x 12
Something else but fuck I ran out of movements that I know of 3 x 12
Dumbell Pullovers 3 x 12
Tricep Pushdown 3 x F
Pushups 3 x F
post #30527 of 46983
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Originally Posted by VLSI View Post

Please stop frown.gif

this is the way of rhet
post #30528 of 46983
It's just slightly more detail, they both say the same thing, which is why chariy said he agreed with my post. You don't train as hard or eat as much because you don't have the additional test, it's not like you don't eat less or train as hard for no reason. There is also evidence to show that gear to some extent puts mass on you without training, there have been studies showing the difference between 300mg, 600mg, 1000mg of test and not training with training. Steroids have more effects then just increasing your appetite and your ability to recover.
post #30529 of 46983
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Originally Posted by hendrix View Post

ah, now here we go.

"Randomised double blind study" is the argument we expect from a med student (no offense). Of course there's no "randomised double blind study". Who the fuck would commission that?

What we can do is go by what we know of the physiological response to testosterone.

Would you like to list those responses for us?

A response like, oh, I don't know...an increase in Lean Body Mass?

Sources:
http://jcem.endojournals.org/content/75/4/1092.short
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2265.2005.02339.x/abstract;jsessionid=FACEF31F427FE3499ADACCD64D5D73FE.d02t03?deniedAccessCustomisedMessage=&userIsAuthenticated=false
http://jcem.endojournals.org/content/85/8/2670.short
http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content/282/3/E601.short
http://jcem.endojournals.org/content/79/2/561.short
post #30530 of 46983
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Originally Posted by Coldsnap View Post

TKJTG learn me bodybuilding.

I'm guessing more variety of movements and work until failure and not worry about weight. So I would take my regular powerlifting bench day for example -

5/3/1 Bench
Chain Bench 5 x 10
Bent Over Rows 5 x 10
Pushups Feet Elevated 3 x F
Band Tricep Pushdowns 5 x 20

And instead do

5/3/1 Bench
Close Grip Bench 4 x 10
Chest Flys 3 x 12
Something else but fuck I ran out of movements that I know of 3 x 12
Dumbell Pullovers 3 x 12
Tricep Pushdown 3 x F
Pushups 3 x F

Going to failure isn't really a bodybuilding feature, per se. Some folks do it, some don't. I prefer not to so that I keep some gas in the tank and fit in more overall volume. Your BB day looks pretty solid but would(personally) probably change bench to 10/8/6 or 5/5/5 and swap CG bench to incline bench or something unless you really feel like your tris are lagging.
post #30531 of 46983

yes. Thankyou.

More specifically and in relation to what we're talking about, anabolic effects include enhanced protein synthesis with no change in protein breakdown, and some enhanced lipolysis.
post #30532 of 46983
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Originally Posted by TKJTG View Post

Going to failure isn't really a bodybuilding feature, per se. Some folks do it, some don't. I prefer not to so that I keep some gas in the tank and fit in more overall volume. Your BB day looks pretty solid but would(personally) probably change bench to 10/8/6 or 5/5/5 and swap CG bench to incline bench or something unless you really feel like your tris are lagging.

Thanks for the two cents. Gotta keep the 5/3/1 in because I need to keep my top end weight strength progression going, might not make a difference to most people but if I don't train near or around failure I get shitty at it. I'll probably not train to failure then, I think I agree in it gassing me too much. My tris are ok, I'll probably take out the CG because my regular bench grip is about where the knurling starts and it's pretty much a closed grip bench to some people's standards.
post #30533 of 46983
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Originally Posted by hendrix View Post

yes. Thankyou.

More specifically and in relation to what we're talking about, anabolic effects include enhanced protein synthesis with no change in protein breakdown, and some enhanced lipolysis.

Umm...

http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content/282/3/E601.short
post #30534 of 46983
can we all just get along
post #30535 of 46983
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Originally Posted by TKJTG View Post

Umm...

http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content/282/3/E601.short

nope, not talking about old men with below normal T levels, I'm talking about in comparison with normal physiological level. There is not a dose response, as shown by the very same authors when they used the same techniques in healthy young men in their 98 and 99 studies.
post #30536 of 46983
Thread Starter 
herp derp
post #30537 of 46983
How much would 500mg of test cost on the streets (lol). Just wondering?
post #30538 of 46983
Thread Starter 
da fuq? The most intense quad soreness from my 5x5 squats yesterday tell me that 12 days of vacation made me completely forget how to squat. Haven't had anything other than glute/hamstring soreness in years wtf.

Also, my friend who I have been training for just 3 months, who started at 45 lb squats, is now squatting 265 for 5x5 @ 163lbs bodyweight. feels bad man
post #30539 of 46983
Oh god. Shut the fuck up please. Let me lurk without all this bullshit
post #30540 of 46983
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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post

Oh god. Shut the fuck up please. Let me lurk without all this bullshit

Are you planning to continue eating under 1200 cals a day? That's not a good idea unless you're a 90lb girl...
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