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post #30511 of 47785
Bros, buttwink causes lumbar instability right?

I find my lower back to be recovering slower from heavy back squats + RDL sessions.

I think I need to work on mobility. frown.gif
post #30512 of 47785
Finished first year, i'm second year now, obvs mature as fuck. No he's questioning your credibility because you post absolute bullshit and have provided no evidence of even lifting. I am more credible then you, I've been posting in this thread since its beginning and i've made solid progress from lifting, don't know what the fuck your achievements are with regards to lifting. I like how we're assuming I have some massive inferiority complex and am just acting like this online to make myself feel better, i've met like 5 people from this thread in person, i'm not completely different in person or something.


Still don't know how chariys post is different then mine. He said its harder to maintain muscle mass when your further past your natural limit, I said it's harder to maintain muscle mass past your natural limit. He said you can't maintain it because you don't train or eat like you would on gear, I said you won't maintain it because you're not on gear, the effects being you won't be able to eat or train the same way.
post #30513 of 47785
omfg I'm dealing with 2 idiots today. jesus.

Point out a blatantly false idea taking hold in the thread and this is what comes of it.
post #30514 of 47785
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Originally Posted by hendrix View Post

omfg I'm dealing with 2 idiots today. jesus.

Point out a blatantly false idea taking hold in the thread and this is what comes of it.


Is this literally your only way of making arguments, you haven't actually made any points, just telling someone their dumb and wrong isn't exactly an effective argument. How is it blatantly false that you will have a harder time maintaining mass the larger you get. Why would you have any credibility in this thread? You've never proved you know anything about lifting, all we know is your some guy who posts shit fits in WAYWT and can't sit down.
post #30515 of 47785
I see that in my 2 week hiatus from RHET you guys have all continued to be giant phaggots. Glad to see things didn't change too much. satisfied.gif
post #30516 of 47785
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Originally Posted by fuji View Post

Is this literally your only way of making arguments, you haven't actually made any points, just telling someone their dumb and wrong isn't exactly an effective argument. How is it blatantly false that you will have a harder time maintaining mass the larger you get. Why would you have any credibility in this thread? You've never proved you know anything about lifting, all we know is your some guy who posts shit fits in WAYWT and can't sit down.


OMFG.

Hi fuji, I'm hendrix. I am a scientist. That is my day job. I work in the Biochemistry Department at a highly reputable University. I hold a Master's degree in Cellular and Molecular Biomedicine. At the moment, I'm working on characterising human platelet lifespan and function. In fact, I'm sitting on my lab computer right now. If you would like to confirm it, I can PM you my work phone number and you can call me up.

Now, as to my credibility in this thread, I believe that it should be at the very least neutral due to the fact that I have not posted at-best ambiguous and at-worst completely non-sensical posts like this:
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From what i've read if you use gear to push your body past what it can naturally sustain then without the extra test you won't be able to hold onto it. If you use it to bring you to a naturally attainable level then your natural levels of test should be enough to keep the gains.


I've pointed out what is wrong with your post. Chariy has kindly pointed out the correct answer, in perhaps more diplomatic wording. I'm not really sure what you want from me here. So I'll get back to my flow cytometry now? OK?
post #30517 of 47785
Wrote my program for the next three months. I'm going to be training like a bodybuilder aside from the 5/3/1 sets. Should be fun. I need to learn how to feel the pump and focus on feeling the muscles and not just movements. Maybe I should read that modern bodybuilding book by Arnold.
post #30518 of 47785
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Originally Posted by hendrix View Post

OMFG.

Hi fuji, I'm hendrix. I am a scientist. That is my day job. I work in the Biochemistry Department at a highly reputable University. I hold a Master's degree in Cellular and Molecular Biomedicine. At the moment, I'm working on characterising human platelet lifespan and function. In fact, I'm sitting on my lab computer right now. If you would like to confirm it, I can PM you my work phone number and you can call me up.

Now, as to my credibility in this thread, I believe that it should be at the very least neutral due to the fact that I have not posted at-best ambiguous and at-worst completely non-sensical posts like this:
I've pointed out what is wrong with your post. Chariy has kindly pointed out the correct answer, in perhaps more diplomatic wording. I'm not really sure what you want from me here. So I'll get back to my flow cytometry now? OK?


OK you have your masters in some field of biology and you work in academia thats nice, don't particularly care about the natural sciences personally. And this is relevant to the thread why? My stats professor was a quant at an investment bank and has his Phd in some field of stats and published a lot of papers and a textbook should I take his advice on lifting? He's pretty chubby and I doubt he could even deadlift 2 plates, but he's really good at stats. No not having posted any bullshit does not make you credible because no one has any reason to believe anything you have to say. I have posted progress pictures and lifting videos and i've given decent advice in this thread. You haven't explained the difference between what chariy wrote and what I wrote. I said you loose mass because you have less testosterone in your body, he says you lose mass because you have less testosterone resulting in not being able to eat as much or train as hard. His post has slightly more detail then mine, doesn't mean what I wrote is bull shit.
post #30519 of 47785
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Originally Posted by Coldsnap View Post

Wrote my program for the next three months. I'm going to be training like a bodybuilder aside from the 5/3/1 sets. Should be fun. I need to learn how to feel the pump and focus on feeling the muscles and not just movements. Maybe I should read that modern bodybuilding book by Arnold.

im doing pretty much the same thing. i dropped arm work from my chest/shoulder days and put it on its own day and increased volume by 1-2 sets on all upper body accessory lifts. now im lifting 6x week, though if i'm strapped for time one week i just put the arm work back onto chest day so i don't view it as a discrete 6 day split or anything similarly blasphemous to the e-lifting strength gods. its working well so far... getting some good bro-size while strength gains are still largely linear, or at least progressing as well as they used to before i upped the volume. we'll see how it turns out in a few months.

there's a lot of horseshit around about how volume is evil and intensity is the one thing that people with under 2x bodyweight lifts should focus on. given the level of volume is not completely ridiculous, progression > *.
post #30520 of 47785
You're almost there.
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Originally Posted by fuji View Post

I said you loose mass because you have less testosterone in your body

this is incorrect.
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Originally Posted by fuji View Post

he says you lose mass because you have less testosterone resulting in not being able to eat as much or train as hard. because you don't train as hard and don't consume enough calories to maintain the muscle that is already there

this is correct.
post #30521 of 47785
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Originally Posted by jarude View Post

im doing pretty much the same thing. i dropped arm work from my chest/shoulder days and put it on its own day and increased volume by 1-2 sets on all upper body accessory lifts. now im lifting 6x week, though if i'm strapped for time one week i just put the arm work back onto chest day so i don't view it as a discrete 6 day split or anything similarly blasphemous to the e-lifting strength gods. its working well so far... getting some good bro-size while strength gains are still largely linear, or at least progressing as well as they used to before i upped the volume. we'll see how it turns out in a few months.

there's a lot of horseshit around about how volume is evil and intensity is the one thing that people with under 2x bodyweight lifts should focus on. given the level of volume is not completely ridiculous, progression > *.

So what's better 3sets x 12 reps of 2 exercises like barbell curl + preacher curl or 5 sets 10 reps of barbell curls?

I think I'm a bigger baby with training economy. I like going into the gym the next day feeling 80-90% recovered from my last workout.
post #30522 of 47785
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Originally Posted by hendrix View Post

Hi fuji, I'm hendrix. I am a scientist. That is my day job. I work in the Biochemistry Department at a highly reputable University. I hold a Master's degree in Cellular and Molecular Biomedicine. At the moment, I'm working on characterising human platelet lifespan and function. In fact, I'm sitting on my lab computer right now. If you would like to confirm it, I can PM you my work phone number and you can call me up.

Okay, I hate to do this, but....

This post is a giant load of shit. So what if you have a MS in that field? As far as I know, there's never been a randomized double blind study showing the effects of coming off of exogenous test or test derivatives on muscle mass retention. So the answer is, in a nutshell, nobody truly knows. That means that anecdotal evidence is all we really have to go by. Your research has absolutely nothing to do with the topic you're pretending to be an expert in, and I highly doubt in your Master's curriculum that anabolic steroids were even mentioned at anything beyond the cursory level.
post #30523 of 47785
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Originally Posted by TKJTG View Post

Okay, I hate to do this, but....

This post is a giant load of shit. So what if you have a MS in that field? As far as I know, there's never been a randomized double blind study showing the effects of coming off of exogenous test or test derivatives on muscle mass retention. So the answer is, in a nutshell, nobody truly knows. That means that anecdotal evidence is all we really have to go by. Your research has absolutely nothing to do with the topic you're pretending to be an expert in, and I highly doubt in your Master's curriculum that anabolic steroids were even mentioned at anything beyond the cursory level.

ah, now here we go.

"Randomised double blind study" is the argument we expect from a med student (no offense). Of course there's no "randomised double blind study". Who the fuck would commission that?

What we can do is go by what we know of the physiological response to testosterone.

Would you like to list those responses for us?
post #30524 of 47785
Please stop frown.gif
post #30525 of 47785
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Originally Posted by Coldsnap View Post

So what's better 3sets x 12 reps of 2 exercises like barbell curl + preacher curl or 5 sets 10 reps of barbell curls?

I think I'm a bigger baby with training economy. I like going into the gym the next day feeling 80-90% recovered from my last workout.

12 sets of both...

each

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i like the feeling of training sore/not fully recovered. not to say i like burning myself out... i've been at the point where what i could only surmise what was cns burnout prevented me from lifting a single of what i did 2x5 with the week previous, so as long as i am not there, i enjoy training through the suck. i have a newfound appreciation for the philosophy of "fuck what the internet people say" and letting my body determine what i am capable of. i dont think that's the objectively best way to go about things, but i have the most conviction in that belief, so everything i need to do to succeed flows from the actions inspired by that mindset.
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