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post #29971 of 57266
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Originally Posted by hendrix View Post

of course they look better but are they putting on muscle as quickly?

That's the question you have to ask yourself if you decide to limit a food group while going on a bulk. How easy will it be to get that all important caloric excess?

Meh, i'd rather put on muscle mass a little slower than look all bloated and puffed up from too much sodium and water retention. Plus, I personally feel better if i'm eating better rather than junk.
post #29972 of 57266
I've never understood the iifym appeal of living off of junk food. I can appreciate not feeling guilty over having a bag of chips once in awhile but I find I crave good home cooked whole foods more than anything.
post #29973 of 57266
Something worth mentioning is that you can't force feed muscle growth, but you can force feed fat. Don't have a source handy, but isn't it .5lb of lean mass a week under optimal training and recovery circumstances for an experienced trainee? I could be wrong, but either way, I don't get the goal of putting on 2+lbs of scale weight per week for the sake of doing so.
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Originally Posted by I<3Bacon View Post

Maybe it's because I'm a small fry, but smashing 1500cal of chicken, potatoes, n broccoli after working out is often harder than the workout.

Butter tastes amazing on all of these things
post #29974 of 57266
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Originally Posted by jarude View Post

Something worth mentioning is that you can't force feed muscle growth, but you can force feed fat. Don't have a source handy, but isn't it .5lb of lean mass a week under optimal training and recovery circumstances for an experienced trainee? I could be wrong, but either way, I don't get the goal of putting on 2+lbs of scale weight per week for the sake of doing so.
Butter tastes amazing on all of these things

yeah, i agree. heres a good article about it http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/the_truth_about_bulking
post #29975 of 57266
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Originally Posted by jarude View Post

I've never understood the iifym appeal of living off of junk food. I can appreciate not feeling guilty over having a bag of chips once in awhile but I find I crave good home cooked whole foods more than anything.

Big fan of IFFYM after workout. Today was -

1 egg 4 egg whites, 2 bacon, bowl of green beans
6oz chicken, broccoli, fish oil tablets
6oz chicken, broccoli, fish oil tablets + 1/2 scoop of PB, sweet potato, half a slice of banana nut bread
Intra workout 120g sugar, 40g prot, some other stuff
Chipotle double meat, chocolate milk box, banana nut bread
1 Pop tart, 35g casein
post #29976 of 57266
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Originally Posted by MarkI View Post

If you think about it, on a cut or not, eating a diet high in natural, wholesome foods makes the most sense. I look at a lot of my gym rat friends, and the ones who bulk clean always look better than the guys who don't give a shit and eat Big Macs and Doritos.

Clean eating = less salt

Yo GN Im mirin hard dude.
post #29977 of 57266
I was taught then when you increased your protein to around 1.4-1.6g per body weight you need to increase your sodium intake substantially.
post #29978 of 57266
Well, my questions was not really dirty bulk vs clean bulk. I have very good control of my macros and exact calorie intake. I pretty much never eat fast food or much simple carbs.

I am more interested in how much difference natural vs processed sources of carbs and the like matter. For instance, the guy on 70's big talks about only getting the vast majority of his carbs from potatoes and other tubers, in contrast to eating a bigger variety consisting of grains, low fat ice cream, pasta etc. Same goes for good fats versus saturated fats from meat.
post #29979 of 57266
I always thought that the point of a dirty bulk is not worrying about where your macros come from because just hitting targets gets hard. I don't get how you wouldn't look/feel/perform better if you got your nutrients from better quality sources.
post #29980 of 57266
How to put on weight from my experiences..



1.5-2g per pound bw in protein

2-3g per pound bw in carbs

0.75-1g per pound bw in fats


Like first 3,000 calories clean, and after that, fuck it. Also, macros don't need to be 40/30/30 or anything too specific during a bulk.
post #29981 of 57266
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Originally Posted by conceptionist View Post

Well, my questions was not really dirty bulk vs clean bulk. I have very good control of my macros and exact calorie intake. I pretty much never eat fast food or much simple carbs.

I am more interested in how much difference natural vs processed sources of carbs and the like matter. For instance, the guy on 70's big talks about only getting the vast majority of his carbs from potatoes and other tubers, in contrast to eating a bigger variety consisting of grains, low fat ice cream, pasta etc. Same goes for good fats versus saturated fats from meat.

I think that has a lot to do with glycemic index of food. Processed stuff will make your blood sugar levels rise much more than whole foods, I'm sure you know this. I'm no scientists but insulin is a crazy strong growth hormone and as a result it's a great thing to have going on post workout.

It's weird. When I started to try and diet right (think like 6-7 months ago) my off days where I had 0 carbs would destroy me, especially on the Saturday + Sunday. Now my body is use to it and I can definitely tell that my insulin sensitivity is much better but then I spike that shit post workout and feel great. I've been able to bulk 40lbs while eating 0 carbs 3 days out of the week, so that probably says something.
post #29982 of 57266
Fat Jewish brah bought fat grips but being a Manlet a normal bar is basically a fat grip. Using them, can only get 4 chin ups. Someone in the gym wearing a misc shirt might ask if aware
post #29983 of 57266
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Originally Posted by fuji View Post

Fat Jewish brah bought fat grips but being a Manlet a normal bar is basically a fat grip. Using them, can only get 4 chin ups. Someone in the gym wearing a misc shirt might ask if aware

Ask him if he's aware. If he is, the correct response should be "stay safe OP"
post #29984 of 57266

Please..... stay safe!

post #29985 of 57266
500g pasta
400g shredded chicken (Thanks Jarude/Coldsnap(?))
roast walnuts
BBQ grilled veggies
1 unfocussed camera

One meal a day aint hard : )

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