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post #29671 of 57265
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Originally Posted by jarude View Post

Calorie counting is fo suckas, dropped near 20lbs without it

I'm assuming you went from fat to still kind of fat.
post #29672 of 57265
hehe lol. By your standards probably everyone here is fat laugh.gif

If you count long enough you'll eventually get anidea of what you're eating without counting every single bit of consumed food.


I've also been doing LG/IF for a few years now, GraphicN. I like not having to worry about food all day and then pig out post training.

Any RHETers on fitocracy?
post #29673 of 57265
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Originally Posted by TKJTG View Post

I'm assuming you went from fat to still kind of fat.

I would estimate ~10% by now nod[1].gif another 5lbs or so and I will be you last year

Hell, may as well: http://tinypic.com/r/9knyf4/5

Am bad at the guessing, where does rhet think I was there? No, dyel% doesn't count

I track my intake and macros and weigh/measure etc still, I just find counting cals to be dreadful
post #29674 of 57265
Yeah, about 10% sounds right. Just saiyan...you're going to have a hell of a time getting below that and preserving any muscle mass if you don't track calories.
post #29675 of 57265
10% would be my guess too. Not good at this either.
post #29676 of 57265
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Originally Posted by Coldsnap View Post

I never sweat those epic cheat meals. My training is always in check so I figure its my body saying yo bro feed me some caloric heavy nasty shit so I can recover quicker.

A friend of my girlfriend's is quite fat, but she exercises a lot. A bunch of crossfit, which I think is kinda a waste of time if you want to actually do weights, but it still should burn a lot of calories.

Anyway, she's constantly saying shit like "I just have to listen to my body" and "I actually need to eat more to help me lose weight" (!).

With a fucking straight face.

It is so difficult for me to stop laughing.
post #29677 of 57265
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Originally Posted by I<3Bacon View Post


I'd imagine the calories spent sitting in front of a computer for an hour wouldn't be much less than that.

My BodyBugg reads roughly 1.8 to 2.2 calories per minute while I'm sitting down, completely relaxed, with a low pulse. That's about 120 calories per hour, so no.

 

My typical lifting session has me burning around 400-450 calories in 1.5 hours. If you subtract the calories I would burn while not doing anything in that time, I burn an additional 250 or so during the workout ((400 + 450) / 2) - (120*1.5). Yeah, a bit technical but you get the idea.

post #29678 of 57265
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Originally Posted by TKJTG View Post

Yeah, about 10% sounds right. Just saiyan...you're going to have a hell of a time getting below that and preserving any muscle mass if you don't track calories.

Yup. Truth.

 

I got from 15 to 10% bf really fast, like after a month or so of cutting. My workouts were still great and I didn't have any issues on my general well being.

Going down to 7% or wherever I ended up from there took a lot of more effort and time. I had to sleep and rest more or I would be a giant mess. Noticed problems with concentration and some lifts stalled. Also had to start doing early morning walks to lose the last fat.

And I measured everything I ate with very calculated macros, refeeds while using a BodyBugg.

post #29679 of 57265
I beg to differ, like I said, I track my intake, just not by counting every last calorie

Portion counting, friends... There is value in using calorie counters to figure out a starting point but bodybugg etc is a little over the top IMO in terms of effort versus return.

If I keep my intake consistent portion wise and either subtract a certain serving or increase activity, I lose weight. Weight loss stalls, drop another serving/add more activity. Putting everything into a calorie counter and quantifying my daily expended calories is unsustainable... Are you going to pay a bodybugg subscription for the rest of your life? No; at some point you have to accept that guys have been getting swole n shredded without the internet for half a century using shit simple ideas. No reason why we have to quantify every last everything down to a perfect macro split every night when I can cut or bulk largely relying on common sense.
post #29680 of 57265
I wish I could have a stomach drop like jarude and remain strong. But genetics and all the damn hip and core work I do = a thick big midsection
post #29681 of 57265
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Originally Posted by Tigerprawn View Post

I've been going to the gym and lifting for maybe 1 1/2 years now. Always been somewhat active, but I was one of those guys that went to the gym and randomly worked out without any real direction. I won't bomb the thread with multiple questions, but one of my main concerns if my deadlift.

Started deadlift 4-5 months ago and I'd like some tips on how to strengthen my DL and work towards PRs. Currently doing 4x5 (maybe not the best way to go about it?) and I find that the first thing to give out is my grip. Probably something I need to strengthen because I feel I can pull the weight, but my grip gives and I end up dropping or not finishing the pull. Could be my grip technique too. I'm fairly confident in my body form. Asked a few different people in the gym to watch and correct me if I was wrong ( who knows though).

  • 5'8 ~150
  • Max DL 1-2 reps 335 - I know not exactly awesome (should my end goal be 3x bodyweight?)
  • Mixed grip on max attempts

A friend recommended trying to ease into hook grip, but even with just single 45s I feel like my thumbs are gonna rip off if I add more weight haha. Any suggestions are appreciated

Didn't really plan this out and happened by pure coincidence. I forgot this thread existed, but I posted here a year ago and got some good responses, especially from Chariy who I recognize from sufu now. I ended 2012 still not full invested and mucked around in the gym. Didn't have my diet in check and didn't have a true plan for my gym routine. However, I did spend a lot of time trying to learn oly lifts which I think helped in the long run.

Finally dialed myself in towards the end of last year/beginning of this year and really focused on an actual plan and goal using Starting Strength. Saw huge benefit and gains from the program. Jumped into more of a crosstraining/crossfit regime for a little bit and decided it wasn't for me, and now back on a second cycle of Starting Strength. I'm still pushing to improve small things about my form and technique, but I'm pretty proud of where I ended up after a year now that I realized I posted almost exactly a year ago from today. Still going strong and trying to improve. My numbers are nothing special by any means, but a huge leap from where I was at.

I think the biggest factor, at least for me, was finally realizing I don't know jack shit and resign myself to those who are more experienced and more knowledgeable. You don't know as much as you think you do. I'm a "hardgainer" so to speak so if I can make progress I feel like anyone out there can as long as they apply themselves.

5'8 175lbs
Max DL 445
Max Squat 355
Max FR Squat 295
Max Bench 215

I plan to cut down to 165, like TK hopefully I realize I'm a skinny bastard and I can trigger an epic bulk like he did as my end goal is to be ~200lbs.

Sorry for the long post.
post #29682 of 57265
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Originally Posted by Coldsnap View Post

I wish I could have a stomach drop like jarude and remain strong. But genetics and all the damn hip and core work I do = a thick big midsection

Embrace the thick midsection.

*inserts photos of dan green, captain kirk, ed coan, KK, kroc*
post #29683 of 57265
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Originally Posted by Coldsnap View Post

I wish I could have a stomach drop like jarude and remain strong. But genetics and all the damn hip and core work I do = a thick big midsection

***genetics*** i guess I have a good frame then?

Charly, out of curiosity what weight class is 5'11" most competitive in?
post #29684 of 57265
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Originally Posted by Tigerprawn View Post

Didn't really plan this out and happened by pure coincidence. I forgot this thread existed, but I posted here a year ago and got some good responses, especially from Chariy who I recognize from sufu now. I ended 2012 still not full invested and mucked around in the gym. Didn't have my diet in check and didn't have a true plan for my gym routine. However, I did spend a lot of time trying to learn oly lifts which I think helped in the long run.

Finally dialed myself in towards the end of last year/beginning of this year and really focused on an actual plan and goal using Starting Strength. Saw huge benefit and gains from the program. Jumped into more of a crosstraining/crossfit regime for a little bit and decided it wasn't for me, and now back on a second cycle of Starting Strength. I'm still pushing to improve small things about my form and technique, but I'm pretty proud of where I ended up after a year now that I realized I posted almost exactly a year ago from today. Still going strong and trying to improve. My numbers are nothing special by any means, but a huge leap from where I was at.

I think the biggest factor, at least for me, was finally realizing I don't know jack shit and resign myself to those who are more experienced and more knowledgeable. You don't know as much as you think you do. I'm a "hardgainer" so to speak so if I can make progress I feel like anyone out there can as long as they apply themselves.

5'8 175lbs
Max DL 445
Max Squat 355
Max FR Squat 295
Max Bench 215

I plan to cut down to 165, like TK hopefully I realize I'm a skinny bastard and I can trigger an epic bulk like he did as my end goal is to be ~200lbs.

Sorry for the long post.

Nice progress mang, I wouldn't call you a hard gainer if you can pull of a 455 pull 350 squat on SS at your bodyweight
post #29685 of 57265
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Originally Posted by jarude View Post

***genetics*** i guess I have a good frame then?

Charly, out of curiosity what weight class is 5'11" most competitive in?

Usually 242-275. But there are a few 5'11" guys that are in the 220's that are competitive. Even fewer in 198's.
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