Random health and exercise thoughts - Page 1893
How big deficits are you guys running while cutting, since you have to take stuff to suppress your appetite?
I do 800-900 deficits (-30-35% of maintenance) on rest days and I just drink some black coffee throughout the day. Never been that hungry during this cut. Two big meals of at least 700 cals consisting of 80-100 g of protein from meat + some green veggies does wonders. Snack on some slow digesting protein with berries or fruit in between the meals and I'm good.
• We hand out more than a million Tootsie Rolls every month.
Has anyone considered the fact that you could probably save money by joining planet fitness while bulking? Pig out with the tubbies on pizza night.
This is such a dishonest argument.
Yes, it's arbitrary. Just about everything is arbitrary. In the same way that it's arbitrary to say that it might be ok to give a patient a double dose but not a 1000x dose of drug X, it's arbitrary to say that caffeine and aspirin are ok and testosterone is not.
Giving 1000x a dose of drug X could kill them
Caffeine and aspirin could kill you. Unaware of anyone dying of testosterone at safe doses.
I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying. My point was that one has to make an arbitrary call about what is "healthy" and what isn't; just because it's arbitrary doesn't make it wrong.
"dying" of testosterone at "safe" doses is something that is extremely difficult to prove. it's obviously not going to cause you to drop dead on the spot but it does have the potential to cause heart disease, cancer, infertility etc. later in life.
Now clearly if one is suffering from insufficient endogenous production then that warrants supplementation, but don't you think that it's quite reasonable to say that supplementation on top of a normal endogenous range could be described as potentially "unhealthy"?
Certainly more so than a cup of coffee or an aspirin, anyway.
Tuesday: 3 gallons water, 5g sodium, 0 carbs
Wednesday: 2.5 gallons water, 3g sodium, 0 carbs
Thursday: 1.5 gallons, 2g sodium, 0 carbs
Friday: 1.5 gallons, 1g sodium, 500 carbs in evening
Saturday, .5 gallons, minimal sodium, 400 carbs
Might make some adjustments but that'll be the general idea.
i think its valid to view someone's progress and accomplishments differently with gear than without, depending on the context and intent. if someone has reached their the upper area of their genetic potential and using gear is the "final frontier" of making progress towards someone's life goal of accomplishing X at a meet where everyone else is juicing then sure, juice away. relative ethics certainly apply. on the other hand, if its some average gymrat juicing because he's impatient and wants to flex at himself in the mirror and slay pussy with his newfound swoleness, you're damn right i'm going to think less of his accomplishments.
with that being said i will largely agree with you that in the end, it has no effect on me personally whether or not someone is juicing. that doesn't prevent me from looking at their progress and accomplishments through a different lens. not to mention TK... you were the one who said itt that you could always just accuse guys more swole and aesthetic of you as being cheating juicers