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post #28156 of 49510
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Originally Posted by AKang View Post

This seems like a silly question but what do you think about doing some cario after lifting, when you're trying to bulk up? I've been lifting heavy, doing a 5x5 workout program and making gains all around but I keep shedding weight. I am taking in about 4000 calories a day (give or take a few hundred). Been taking in 5g of creatine for the last 2 weeks and I've lost another 1lb in the last 2 weeks (down 8lbs in 3 months). The only thing I can think of that's making me burn the calories and shed the weight is basketball. I lift every mon, wed, friday night, and then play ball right after for about an hour or two (i usually just go after the gym telling myself ill shoot for a few minutes to loosen up, but end up playing pick up games for a few hours).
Could basketball for 1-2hrs a day really be setting me back like this?

Why would you want to do cardio on a bulk? Thats just going to = more food you have to eat. I walk 45mins on my non training days, just because I'm trying to minimize how fucking fat I'm going to be at 200lbs. Still though it's just walking and I had to take into account that I'll be doing that when I totalled my calories.

But yea you shouldn't be able to play basket ball after working out. Even on bench day my legs are very tired because of hip drive and heavy bent over rows.
post #28157 of 49510
Foods Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber
TOTAL: 3,953 485g 129g 192g 380mg 5,092mg 93g 21g
Breakfast
Fruit - Banana Dole, 200 g 200 46g 0g 2g 0mg 2mg 24g 6g
Kirkland Signature - Double Chocolate Chip Muffin, 1 muffin 690 80g 38g 10g 125mg 590mg 48g 3g
Gnc Pro Performance - Creatine Monohydrate Unflavored , 1 teaspoon (5g) 0 0g 0g 0g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g
Lunch
Shin Ramyun - Ramen Noodles, Korean Spicy, 112 g 560 82g 18g 10g 0mg 2,080mg 4g 2g
Rice - White, long-grain, regular, cooked, 2 cup 411 89g 1g 9g 0mg 3mg 0g 1g
Dinner
Generic - Bulgogi - Korean Sliced Marinated Beef, 1 cup 161 10g 8g 11g 0mg 317mg 0g 0g
Rice - White, long-grain, regular, cooked, 2 cup 411 89g 1g 9g 0mg 3mg 0g 1g
Snacks
Fruit - Banana Dole, 100 g 100 23g 0g 1g 0mg 1mg 12g 3g
Mcdonald's - Chicken Mcnuggets (20-Piece), 20 nuggets (11.4 oz or 323 g) 940 59g 59g 44g 135mg 1,800mg 0g 3g
Optimum Nutrition - Whey Protein, Gold Standard 100%, Double Rich Chocolate, 121.6 g (1 rounded scoop) 480 7g 4g 96g 120mg 296mg 5g 2g

 

This was my day yesterday. I know this may be off by a little since Korea food is quite difficult to track since I don't make my meals per serving, but this is how I track my meals using Myfitnesspal.

post #28158 of 49510
Hmm is it hard to find actual protein in Korea? Company I work for is based out of Korea and they say it's all BBQ. I eat a lot more than that on my lifting days, seems like theres something off with that calorie total.
post #28159 of 49510
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Originally Posted by TWorksheets View Post

Not to sidestep your question, but how can you manage to play basketball after working out? I can barely walk after most squat days

Your body adapts fairly quickly. I don't feel shit from squatting anymore, no DOMS or anything. I can't squat multiple days in a row because I'm used to it. Deadlifted max effort for the first time in like a year last month and it destroyed me. After a few weeks of doing it twice a week I don't get DOMS anymore.
post #28160 of 49510
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Originally Posted by AKang View Post

Foods Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber
TOTAL: 3,953 485g 129g 192g 380mg 5,092mg 93g 21g
Breakfast
Fruit - Banana Dole, 200 g 200 46g 0g 2g 0mg 2mg 24g 6g
Kirkland Signature - Double Chocolate Chip Muffin, 1 muffin 690 80g 38g 10g 125mg 590mg 48g 3g
Gnc Pro Performance - Creatine Monohydrate Unflavored , 1 teaspoon (5g) 0 0g 0g 0g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g
Lunch
Shin Ramyun - Ramen Noodles, Korean Spicy, 112 g 560 82g 18g 10g 0mg 2,080mg 4g 2g
Rice - White, long-grain, regular, cooked, 2 cup 411 89g 1g 9g 0mg 3mg 0g 1g
Dinner
Generic - Bulgogi - Korean Sliced Marinated Beef, 1 cup 161 10g 8g 11g 0mg 317mg 0g 0g
Rice - White, long-grain, regular, cooked, 2 cup 411 89g 1g 9g 0mg 3mg 0g 1g
Snacks
Fruit - Banana Dole, 100 g 100 23g 0g 1g 0mg 1mg 12g 3g
Mcdonald's - Chicken Mcnuggets (20-Piece), 20 nuggets (11.4 oz or 323 g) 940 59g 59g 44g 135mg 1,800mg 0g 3g
Optimum Nutrition - Whey Protein, Gold Standard 100%, Double Rich Chocolate, 121.6 g (1 rounded scoop) 480 7g 4g 96g 120mg 296mg 5g 2g

This was my day yesterday. I know this may be off by a little since Korea food is quite difficult to track since I don't make my meals per serving, but this is how I track my meals using Myfitnesspal.

Is that your typical day?
post #28161 of 49510
since thermodynamics don't suddenly stop to exist when you walk in the gym, it's either

too little calories going in
or too much going out

or both.
Edited by Lagrangian - 4/22/13 at 10:18am
post #28162 of 49510
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Originally Posted by mrchariybrown View Post


Is that your typical day?

 

On days I have classes (tuesday thursday) I won't have time for Breakfast but everything else is pretty similar (mon, wed, fri, sat, sun). I will also have 2-4 beers on those nights (tuesday thursdays). 

 

And on workout days, I will take the Creatine with my post workout protein drink.

post #28163 of 49510
Well I'll tell you one thing. Protein is too low and carbs are too high imo.
post #28164 of 49510
Yea, probably the culture.
post #28165 of 49510
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Originally Posted by mrchariybrown View Post

Well I'll tell you one thing. Protein is too low and carbs are too high imo.

 

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Originally Posted by Lagrangian View Post

since thermodynamics don't suddenly stop to exist when you walk in the gym, it's either

too litlle calories going in
or too much going out

or both.

 

I'll definitely increase my caloric intake since I'll most likely never stop playing ball. Also try to cut down on the carbs and up protein.

 

I guess I figured I could just eat anything and get bigger. This is a lot harder than I thought...  thanks for all the advice.

post #28166 of 49510
well that came out a bit snarky.. what i just meant is that if you're highly active, your daily energy needs will reflect that, i.e. you might need to eat a lot to obtain that surplus.

e. as in my former poast was a bit on the assholish side
Edited by Lagrangian - 4/22/13 at 10:16am
post #28167 of 49510

Oh, no, sorry, I wasn't trying to be snarky at all, I was serious. It makes sense, if I'm gonna choose to be more active, I would obviously need to take in more calories. I'm totally new to all this bulking up business so I'm taking in as much as I can from everyone here.
 

post #28168 of 49510
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Originally Posted by fuji View Post

Your body adapts fairly quickly. I don't feel shit from squatting anymore, no DOMS or anything. I can't squat multiple days in a row because I'm used to it. Deadlifted max effort for the first time in like a year last month and it destroyed me. After a few weeks of doing it twice a week I don't get DOMS anymore.

Yeah, something I didn't anticipate when switching from 3 days/wk -> 2 days/wk is that my recovery time would actually get worse...
post #28169 of 49510
Rule of thumb is.. if you're not getting bigger.. eat more.. still not? Eat more.
post #28170 of 49510
lol at the blanket statement of doing cardio means progress is left at the table, sorry. if you're competing and your cns is taxed to the max and you are already eating 5k+ a day, then sure, tone down the 2 hour cardio sessions. if you're like 95% of other people, the cardio monster is not going to come in and steal your gainzz. its a balance and i highly doubt the incremental benefit in terms of "lifting progress left on the table" outweighs the first unit of marginal utility from having the cardiovascular ability to walk up stairs without dying.
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