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Originally Posted by mrchariybrown View Post

Would be a sound argument if your basis wasn't completely wrong.

A "pure" deadlift is breaking the weight off level ground (no deficit or blocks), and locking out without hitching or ramping the weight. How you perform that is up to you.

A lot of powerlifters pull with a rounded back because it increases leverage and their efficiency. And proper technique is all about leverage.

Yes, a rounded back a lot of times means your are way out of position and that you are in danger of hurting yourself, but use it correctly and someone may put themselves in a more efficient position. Basically shitty deadlift form usually comes with a rounded back but a rounded back deadlift isn't always an indication of bad form or what you call a "pure DL" lol

If you got a problem with that, you should go tell KK, Pete Rubish, Chris Hickson, and a bunch of other top level guys that they're deadlifting wrong and show them how to deadlift. Hell, you can show ME.

I think you misunderstood when I said rounded back (probably cause I didn't specify). I mean a back that rounds as you're pulling. IE: Abs not braced and locking your starting back position in whatever state you choose.

Like in the video from a couple pages ago where, as the guy is pulling he goes from taut to rounding.
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Originally Posted by deadly7 View Post

I think you misunderstood when I said rounded back (probably cause I didn't specify). I mean a back that rounds as you're pulling. IE: Abs not braced and locking your starting back position in whatever state you choose.

Like in the video from a couple pages ago where, as the guy is pulling he goes from taut to rounding.

In that case, I completely agree with you! I must've misunderstood you.

Going from flat to curved whilst breaking the ground looks ugly and throws leverage all out of whack.
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Wore rippetoe shorts and a flannel to the gym, added 20lbs to my bent over row.
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tfw 8:30 am eyes barely open doing fucking v-sits and groiners with sore hamstringers and a lower back and a headache fffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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tfw 3am watching 24 s8 and grading math papers by ppl who cant even fucking subtract
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Where is his belly button?lookaround.gif
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Originally Posted by Coldsnap View Post

Wore rippetoe shorts and a flannel to the gym, added 20lbs to my bent over row.

Irony rippetoe hates BB rows lolol
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Really?? wtf BB rows are my jam
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The other piece of the technique argument is short-term vs. long-term. In the short term, you may be able to put up more weight with less than ideal technique. In the longer term, though, your gains will stall, and not just because of injuries. Bad technique is usually a sign of some deficiency in either mobility or strength. With bad technique, you can compensate for this weakness and sometime lift more weight, but by doing so, the weak bits stay weak. If instead you force yourself to move properly, you may be limited by some disproportionally weak bit, but that bit will get stronger, and in the long run, you'll see more progress.

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Originally Posted by joshuadowen View Post

The other piece of the technique argument is short-term vs. long-term. In the short term, you may be able to put up more weight with less than ideal technique. In the longer term, though, your gains will stall, and not just because of injuries. Bad technique is usually a sign of some deficiency in either mobility or strength. With bad technique, you can compensate for this weakness and sometime lift more weight, but by doing so, the weak bits stay weak. If instead you force yourself to move properly, you may be limited by some disproportionally weak bit, but that bit will get stronger, and in the long run, you'll see more progress.


In the long term we're all injured (teh injury market does not have blocked entry)
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Bros, i have noticed when doing 90% of max DLs, my first two reps are perfect, then upper back starts to round slightly on the next (happens when belt-less)

I'm currently trying to wean myself of belts though, but my core doesn't feel as engaged.

Whattudo???


Edit: also, 4 sets of 12 pull ups now easy as fuck. Should i do more reps or do more weighted? Either way, quite amazing that i was doing only 5 reps in April.
Edited by Flame - 1/17/13 at 7:49pm
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Originally Posted by joshuadowen View Post

With bad technique, you can compensate for this weakness and sometime lift more weight, but by doing so, the weak bits stay weak.

Took me almost a year to figure this out. Finally grinding the last reps of my squats and deads with the right muscle groups (albeit with weight I was moving easily months ago). I'm hoping it pays off in the end.
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Originally Posted by fuji View Post

In the long term we're all injured (teh injury market does not have blocked entry)

For most powerlifter this is a fact.

I don't know one successful powerlifter that haven't torn something. But they always seem to come back stronger.

I'm looking forward/not looking forward for the first tear.
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Originally Posted by mrchariybrown View Post

But they always seem to come back stronger.

ok there
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Originally Posted by db_ggmm View Post

ok there

They do - from the guys I've talked to. Maybe I should've elaborated. I meant guys that are < 40 years old. Anyone that I've spoken with older than that that have torn something or herniated a disc, usually calls it quits from the powerlifting game. (Usually, I know some guys older than that that have torn muscles/tendons are still compete).
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