Random health and exercise thoughts

APK · Jan 17, 2012

Rambo said:
BTW - Toasty - do the **** yourself. The knowledge is what you really should shoot for. Sure, it'll be harder, but it'll pay off down the line ten fold.

Getting a good trainer doesn't mean he can't still learn things. On the contrary, having someone at your disposal who knows his **** will allow you to hack away at the nonsense and just focus on absorbing the figurative meat and potatoes. I don't want to speak for them, but I'd wager Charly and jarude would both attest that they've learned quite a bit under ex.

fuji · Jan 17, 2012

Don't think he really needs a trainer. Assuming his squat and deadlift form are ok he just needs to eat more and increase weight. pretty simple.

Back DOMS are intense, snatch grip deads yesterday, heavy as fuack rows today. Hitting upper back 4 days a week now and considering switching from bench to incline db bench. Not long until cutting time. Working on hypertrophy, not long until cutting time so I want as much size as I can before then.

gettoasty · Jan 17, 2012

Yeah I can understand all my grieving turns this place upside down. Don't want to sound like a downer all the time.

I do realize what I have to fix. Will stay positive and post good news when I can!

Anyways, forgot who mentioned this (think it was Eason), but 1.5x body is a good beginning?
225lb DL, 135 squat/bench. Will update when the latter two are more evenly balanced with the former.

ty!

Mandrake9072 · Jan 17, 2012

gettoasty said:
Yeah I can understand all my grieving turns this place upside down. Don't want to sound like a downer all the time.
I do realize what I have to fix. Will stay positive and post good news when I can!
Anyways, forgot who mentioned this (think it was Eason), but 1.5x body is a good beginning?
225lb DL, 135 squat/bench. Will update when the latter two are more evenly balanced with the former.
ty!

Depends what lift you're talking about...

I've always heard that 1.5 x bw squat is considered intermediate level. Deadlift numbers should be 1.5-2 x bw for intermediate.

*Edit*: strstd.com numbers seem to confirm what I said. There are ranges for bench and ohp as well...

Axelman 17 · Jan 17, 2012

Did 165lbs at 5x5 on the bench today, for me, this is good.

Tried facepulls for the first time. I think I went to high on the weight and therefore was forced to lean backwards with my body when pulling, I suspect this prevented me from isolating the right muscles.

Does anyone have a good link to the non-Tate method for JM presses, every youtube video I find seems to prescribe a different approach.

jarude · Jan 17, 2012

Axelman 17 said:
Did 165lbs at 5x5 on the bench today, for me, this is good.
Tried facepulls for the first time. I think I went to high on the weight and therefore was forced to lean backwards with my body when pulling, I suspect this prevented me from isolating the right muscles.
Does anyone have a good link to the non-Tate method for JM presses, every youtube video I find seems to prescribe a different approach.

and for facepulls there's always going to be a slight amount of leaning backwards.

fuji · Jan 17, 2012

I usually lean back until im slightly angled back, but keep my arms straight and then pull with strict form and focus on getting a good contraction at the end of the motion and a slow negative. Uncomfortable to do them with a perfectly vertical back.

knucks · Jan 18, 2012

If you are worried you aren't doing facepulls correctly, do it in 2 steps: first pull the scapulas back then pull the rest

knucks · Jan 18, 2012

knucks · Jan 18, 2012

Mandrake9072 said:
Depends what lift you're talking about...
I've always heard that 1.5 x bw squat is considered intermediate level. Deadlift numbers should be 1.5-2 x bw for intermediate.
*Edit*: strstd.com numbers seem to confirm what I said. There are ranges for bench and ohp as well...

meh, not sure how i feel about these standards but i guess a decent landmark for people

speedy4500 · Jan 18, 2012

gettoasty said:
what is better:
2 double-double protein burgers no cheese, no special sauce, grilled onions from inNout
or
rice bowl from chipotle
?

Given your recent laments about not being strong enough or big enough, I believe the correct answer in your case is "both."

mrchariybrown · Jan 18, 2012

Don't drop your elbows too much and no need to go that far back - all that's doing is increasing bicep involvement.

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Rambo · Jan 18, 2012

I gotta disagree with you on that one Charlie. That looks like a high row for ***** sake.

mrchariybrown · Jan 18, 2012

Rambo said:
I gotta disagree with you on that one Charlie. That looks like a high row for ***** sake.

And I have to disagree with you on that.

Scroll the time bar on knucks posted video and see how his elbows drop a bit below his shoulders when brought back?

These two are good examples of keeping elbows in line with the shoulders..

The second one, the dude even stated you don't want to drop them down and turn it into a row. And his first few reps are nice and in line with what he's say and as he gets to the latter reps, his form breaks down a bit and his elbows start dropping a little.

mrchariybrown · Jan 18, 2012

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