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Originally Posted by Coldsnap View Post

A lot of people who compete pull with a neutral and solid spine. If you watch that super training TV video posted a while back all those guys are pulling with a solid spine. On Eason's video his lumbar is curved as hell before he even touches the bar, and when he starts his pull it's the first thing that moves up / breaks.

You can even rewatch it for yourself.



You can see that a lot of top guys pull with a curved back.

Also, you need to take into consideration how thick these guy's erectors, so a lot of back rounding is masked.

I've noticed as my erectors have gotten thicker it only looks like I'm rounding back back less when in fact I'm pulling the exact same way I have pulled to get my erectors to the size they've gotten.
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Can I get a massage up in this bitch? My right middle trap has seized up and is pinching a nerve, I want to jam a knife in there.
post #23853 of 48976
A lot of those spins look neutral to me and locked in place. And the ones that are slightly rounded stay tight though the lift and don't round at the beginning or middle.
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Originally Posted by Coldsnap View Post

A lot of those spins look neutral to me and locked in place. And the ones that are slightly rounded stay tight though the lift and don't round at the beginning or middle.

Not really. But still, I have tight hamstrings and it's something I need to work on.
post #23855 of 48976
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Originally Posted by Coldsnap View Post

A lot of those spins look neutral to me and locked in place. And the ones that are slightly rounded stay tight though the lift and don't round at the beginning or middle.

Chris Hickson looks only "slightly rounded" to you? lolololol

Anyways, I do agree that if you're going to round your back, start with the same position you're going to keep til lockout.
post #23856 of 48976
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Originally Posted by mrchariybrown View Post

I don't really care what the articles says or not but you will always have a bunch of whiners about back rounding. Mostly from guys who deadlift less than you.
I don't like to discuss about it in depth anymore. My only question is usually "how much do you pull?"

Read the article, it agrees with you and provides some reasons as to why most people pull heavier with a rounded spine.
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Originally Posted by Towers View Post

Read the article, it agrees with you and provides some reasons as to why most people pull heavier with a rounded spine.

I think I've glanced over it before. Gives some scientific basis to it I guess.

When it comes down to it though, pulling that style just makes me more explosive, stronger, and, most importantly, nothing on my body hurts in that form.
post #23858 of 48976
Can you post a video of your dead Charly? I remember when you pulled your back stays in place.

I just think for an average joe who is not competing and can't pull more than 400lbs without rounding at the beginning and during the lift has no business pulling like that.
post #23859 of 48976
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Originally Posted by Coldsnap View Post

Can you post a video of your dead Charly? I remember when you pulled your back stays in place.
I just think for an average joe who is not competing and can't pull more than 400lbs without rounding at the beginning and during the lift has no business pulling like that.

From a couple months ago.
Deadlift video! (Click to show)
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At what weight do you guys start using a belt?  Last week I reached some new PR's in the deadlift and squat, 425x2 and 315x1 respectively.  I've never used a belt on any exercise but now getting up into some heavier weights, I'm not sure if I should look into getting one.  What are your guys thoughts?

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I only use them for 90% lifts and up. It's good to know how to use one and it's also good to be able to be able to recruit your muscles without.
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Originally Posted by Coldsnap View Post

Can you post a video of your dead Charly? I remember when you pulled your back stays in place.
I just think for an average joe who is not competing and can't pull more than 400lbs without rounding at the beginning and during the lift has no business pulling like that.

I just think... I just think you have no business telling me I have no business pulling like that.
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Originally Posted by jabster410 View Post

At what weight do you guys start using a belt?  Last week I reached some new PR's in the deadlift and squat, 425x2 and 315x1 respectively.  I've never used a belt on any exercise but now getting up into some heavier weights, I'm not sure if I should look into getting one.  What are your guys thoughts?

I don't think theres really any point where you should get a belt. Everyone is gonna benefit from using a belt doing there maximals sets.

Lul I sumo deadlift with a curved upper back. Only time I have a perfectly neutral spine is on RDLs and even then when towards the last reps of the set my upper back is probably curving a bit.
post #23864 of 48976
FWIW, I've always been taught that slight rounding is alright in relative terms; one's neutral spine is going to be different from another's neutral spine just based on physiology. Most important is that the back is neutral and remains so - when a change occurs from the stress of the lift, that's when you've got problems or are lifting too heavy.
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discussion topics in rhet:

1. meal timing protocols
2. back rounding on deadlifts
3. i just did "x" icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

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