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post #23581 of 48518
I get slight DOMS in them and I feel them work, just never had much growth. I feel box squats pretty much entirely in my hamstrings and if I do enough volume my quads too.
post #23582 of 48518
What I brought to the white elephant gift exchange at the office

post #23583 of 48518
I think there's just a grass is always greener mentality when it comes to our body comp goals. Those who were chubby or fat all their lives usually seemed to be after that lean, cut up look, while those who grew up skinny or skinny fat just want to pack on mass, even if that means putting on a good amount of fat in the process. Goals obviously fluctuate, but it'd be interesting to note who here was in the first group and who was in the second group during their adolescence.

Coldsnap has expressed an interest in remaining or getting aesthetically pleasing while also having a good amount of muscle mass. I get that there are more than one path to such an endpoint, but based on the information he's shared, I was just expressing that perhaps his chosen path wasn't working as effectively as leaning out first and then adding mass would. I know he looks at someone like Charly as an inspiration of sorts. But if I'm remembering correctly, Charly was really leaned out before he started packing on the mass and putting up some impressive lifts. And even now, isn't Charly only tipping the scales in the very low 200's? So there's like, what, maybe 20 pounds difference between him and CS? And he's got three or four inches on CS, to say nothing of the disparity between their lifts.

I dunno. It probably seems like I'm always ragging on CS, but he's often expressed frustration in his body composition. Perhaps leaning out first and then doing a slow bulk would yield better results than binging on lots of delicious shit all the time and then being perplexed by why his waist and ass continue to grow. I did that method for a while even though I wasn't particularly lean. Didn't work out for me too well. I'm still not shredded, but I'm a lot leaner than I was a year ago and NOW, I seem to be able to get away with adding in more junk food without blowing back up. thumbs-up.gif
post #23584 of 48518
Correct, I was already pretty lean when I started packing on some more size. And yes, I am currently in the low 200's.
post #23585 of 48518

Great post, I was a fatty growing up, weighed 235 when I was 15...

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Originally Posted by APK View Post

I think there's just a grass is always greener mentality when it comes to our body comp goals. Those who were chubby or fat all their lives usually seemed to be after that lean, cut up look, while those who grew up skinny or skinny fat just want to pack on mass, even if that means putting on a good amount of fat in the process. Goals obviously fluctuate, but it'd be interesting to note who here was in the first group and who was in the second group during their adolescence.
Coldsnap has expressed an interest in remaining or getting aesthetically pleasing while also having a good amount of muscle mass. I get that there are more than one path to such an endpoint, but based on the information he's shared, I was just expressing that perhaps his chosen path wasn't working as effectively as leaning out first and then adding mass would. I know he looks at someone like Charly as an inspiration of sorts. But if I'm remembering correctly, Charly was really leaned out before he started packing on the mass and putting up some impressive lifts. And even now, isn't Charly only tipping the scales in the very low 200's? So there's like, what, maybe 20 pounds difference between him and CS? And he's got three or four inches on CS, to say nothing of the disparity between their lifts.
I dunno. It probably seems like I'm always ragging on CS, but he's often expressed frustration in his body composition. Perhaps leaning out first and then doing a slow bulk would yield better results than binging on lots of delicious shit all the time and then being perplexed by why his waist and ass continue to grow. I did that method for a while even though I wasn't particularly lean. Didn't work out for me too well. I'm still not shredded, but I'm a lot leaner than I was a year ago and NOW, I seem to be able to get away with adding in more junk food without blowing back up. thumbs-up.gif
post #23586 of 48518
all you people are skinny and need to shut up already.
post #23587 of 48518
I aspire for this aesthetic and charly
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I think something like that takes years though, especially when you add in the speed bumps. I appreciate the feedback APK and most of my decision to start dieting was based on your criticism. I've only been at this for like 2 years now and ALOT of that time was spent fixing a life time of bad posture, which turned out to be a lot harder than anyone said it would be. I trained with someone who had an aesthetic like the 70s big dude and he was always saying most people that are skinny like me and who want to get big never will because they are scared to get a little fat. I'm no one special here but when I walk into a gym I'm stronger and bigger than 80% of the people in the gym, and these are people who seem to spend more time in the gym than me. So at least I have gotten past the spinning your wheel stage. I sent some pictures over to me friend of me now vs 2 1/2 months ago and he said to stay on course and the reason my hips look big is because I've lost a ton of body fat in my stomach area while the body fat in my love handles are hanging around. So I have cleaned up my backloads a bit. The more I do CBLing the more I realize it's just a repackaged way bodybuilders eat with manipulating carbs and all... but yea i got some work to do right now I'm at 175lbs.
post #23588 of 48518
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What I brought to the white elephant gift exchange at the office

lol i have a white elephant tomorrow too. I'm such a damn minimist i literally throw out stuff i dont use 1-2 times a day.. so i have absolutely nothing. Oh snap i just found some plain unopened bread crumbs
post #23589 of 48518
Coldsnap, sounds like if you're not happy with your pear shape you need to be doing hypertrophy work to add mass to your upper block. Big shoulders, tris, traps, chest, and developed lats can make wide hips look slimmer. Granted I'm 5 inches taller than you, but I have 36-37 in wide hip/butt area. And my true waist (belly button) is maybe 1 inch smaller so I can easily look blocky. I also feel I look way chunkier than I actually am (your camera angle probably exaggerated your chunkiness a bit). I look pretty fucking DYEL (not as much as Fuji) and I still hit pretty decent numbers given my size.

6'1 195 wearing a medium Uniqlo Oxford and 32 gap skinny jeans. 275 bench, 365 squat, 425 DL. I still look completely normal in clothes.

post #23590 of 48518
^that's the plan now that my shoulder has healed. I've significantly grown my upper body in the 2 months that my shoulder has been feeling OK, pretty much had to rebuy my whole wardrobe
post #23591 of 48518
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Originally Posted by conceptionist View Post

Shouldn't you have decent glutes if you're squatting 285 for reps?

My glutes and hamstrings have grown a ton since I started doing those wide stance box squats. Takes most of the strain off the quads.
Proper DL and RDL technique should hit the glutes fairly hard to, no? I get doms there after DL's sometimes.
Maybe , maybe not.

If you sit all day, naw, doubt it.
post #23592 of 48518
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Originally Posted by Coldsnap View Post

I aspire for this aesthetic and charly Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I think something like that takes years though, especially when you add in the speed bumps. I appreciate the feedback APK and most of my decision to start dieting was based on your criticism. I've only been at this for like 2 years now and ALOT of that time was spent fixing a life time of bad posture, which turned out to be a lot harder than anyone said it would be. I trained with someone who had an aesthetic like the 70s big dude and he was always saying most people that are skinny like me and who want to get big never will because they are scared to get a little fat. I'm no one special here but when I walk into a gym I'm stronger and bigger than 80% of the people in the gym, and these are people who seem to spend more time in the gym than me. So at least I have gotten past the spinning your wheel stage. I sent some pictures over to me friend of me now vs 2 1/2 months ago and he said to stay on course and the reason my hips look big is because I've lost a ton of body fat in my stomach area while the body fat in my love handles are hanging around. So I have cleaned up my backloads a bit. The more I do CBLing the more I realize it's just a repackaged way bodybuilders eat with manipulating carbs and all... but yea i got some work to do right now I'm at 175lbs.

Just keep lifting heavy and pounding back food.

I think a big part of the reason why your hips look much bigger is the choice of clothing. But I do understand that certain work environments require certain dress codes.
post #23593 of 48518
i think the best way to acquire aesthetics is to not worry so much about it. lately i have been just focusing on working hard, eating a lot of food and enjoying what im doing and the aesthetics are just a pleasant after-effect. a lot of people have the wrong incentive in mind when it comes to lifting. just like that dude who played guitar in high school to pick up chicks usually fucking sucked at guitar... just enjoy lifting heavy things and be consistent in the long-term. im doing a pretty low volume routine with a strong focus on conditioning and i have been putting on quality size, so im not sure why people are hyper-analyzing their diet and programming when it comes to the mythical and elusive goal of aesthetics.

side note: way too many people itt are using the word "genetics." that word needs to be fucking banned and anyone who says "genetics" in relation to their shortcomings needs to stop now.
Edited by jarude - 12/19/12 at 3:42pm
post #23594 of 48518
doing Layne Norton's PHAT and basically I fucking forgot it was Wednesday and worked back/shoulders with only 1 days rest after my upper power day... fukin pissed. No wonder I was so dam tired. felt like a wasted workout since I wasn't able to lift as heavy and probably just burnt myself out in the process. baldy[1].gif
post #23595 of 48518
Cold have you actually started going heavy on your upper body? Maybe you can take a month or two and go 75% bro mode and do one day of maintenance squats/deadlifts.
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