I think there's just a grass is always greener mentality when it comes to our body comp goals. Those who were chubby or fat all their lives usually seemed to be after that lean, cut up look, while those who grew up skinny or skinny fat just want to pack on mass, even if that means putting on a good amount of fat in the process. Goals obviously fluctuate, but it'd be interesting to note who here was in the first group and who was in the second group during their adolescence.
Coldsnap has expressed an interest in remaining or getting aesthetically pleasing while also having a good amount of muscle mass. I get that there are more than one path to such an endpoint, but based on the information he's shared, I was just expressing that perhaps his chosen path wasn't working as effectively as leaning out first and then adding mass would. I know he looks at someone like Charly as an inspiration of sorts. But if I'm remembering correctly, Charly was really leaned out before he started packing on the mass and putting up some impressive lifts. And even now, isn't Charly only tipping the scales in the very low 200's? So there's like, what, maybe 20 pounds difference between him and CS? And he's got three or four inches on CS, to say nothing of the disparity between their lifts.
I dunno. It probably seems like I'm always ragging on CS, but he's often expressed frustration in his body composition. Perhaps leaning out first and then doing a slow bulk would yield better results than binging on lots of delicious shit all the time and then being perplexed by why his waist and ass continue to grow. I did that method for a while even though I wasn't particularly lean. Didn't work out for me too well. I'm still not shredded, but I'm a lot leaner than I was a year ago and NOW, I seem to be able to get away with adding in more junk food without blowing back up.