Random health and exercise thoughts - Page 1483

Originally Posted by joshuadowen 

I understand the principals of CBL, but there has to be a cleaner way to do this. No one with an interest in nutrition ought to be eating oreas, cheese cake, pizza, and ice cream. There are lots of good starch source out there that will get you the carbs you need without shoveling crap down your mouth like this.

Originally Posted by Coldsnap 


There's a podcast with Kiefer and Robb Wolfe that talks about how the dirty carbs are the best for CBL because of insuline spike lengths. Dirty carbs will spike you real fast then bring you back down, while stuff like yams and sweet potatoes will keep your insulin levels elevated much longer. So you sorta get the spike, prolong it for a few hours by constant feeding, then wake up in the morning with low insulin sensitivity. It's explained in the PDF but on a pretty advance level. I actually did due diligence and got blood work before starting this diet. I'm going to check it in 2-3 months and see if anything has changed. I'm going to start testing with cleaner foods too that will spike insulin fast, like a lot of gluten free items (fruity pebbles are gluten free). Also eating grassfed beef and mostly organic stuff.

Originally Posted by loveymiller 

you are looking awesome and you should enjoy your life.

Originally Posted by Coldsnap 

Gotcha, well I'm keeping a food log and hoping to get advice from professionals on the forum. I will see what they say. I'm not sure how I would eat 300-400g of clean food.

Originally Posted by Rambo 

that pre-workout meal sounds awful

Originally Posted by conceptionist 

My IF CBL days look like this:
Wake up 9-10 ish
Big cup of black cofee
12-14 class
14:30 pre workout meal (breaks the fast): 120 g canned tuna, 2 boiled eggs, big salad, 1 spoon olive oil and some vinegar, 100 g cottage cheese
16:00 workout
18:00 The Big Feast (split into two meals): 500g sweet potatoes, 350g brown rice, 500g chicken breast, 500g veggies, 150g greek yoghurt
Dessert: 120g oatmeal, 200 g berries, low fat milk, apple
21:00 Rest of the feast + dessert (casein protein powder, almonds, flax seeds)
Comes out to 4000 cal for the day - 550g carbs, 70g fat, 250g protein
Pre workout is approx 600 kcal - 35g carbs, 25g fat, 55g protein

Originally Posted by db_ggmm 

Not a lot of time to play devil's advocate here, but I would consider whether or not the reaction here to CS's CBL is a bit kneejerk. "Overdoing it" is an awfully vague feeling being applied to a calculated diet (assuming he has calc'd those cals and carbs out, which I read that he did). I generally do a CBL although less extreme / more "reddit" inspired and it has modified what I view as "clean" which is another vague complaint in the past couple posts. For example, I would really consider homemade ice cream and cheesecake to be post workout clean foods, no problem, as I have controlled the preservative / chemical content. It is hard to get cleaner than cream, milk, eggs, sugar, and vanilla.