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post #21976 of 49339
you're the one who discounted him as a good coach. you don't need to hire somebody in person. i mentioned the $300 because people usually quote money as a reason why not to hire someone - the fact that you can afford it but refuse for some reason doesn't make any sense to me.

why are you so resistant to hiring someone? with all of the issues you have gone through, and considering how serious you take all of this and the fact that you're financially able, why on earth would you continue to do what you're doing?
post #21977 of 49339
I already said

1. there is nobody like that to hire
2. the biggest issue is training itself, because it sure aint diet, so if the coach is not there to train you, its not much use. I can get a good program off the internet, but my ability to implement it is down to me in the gym, which is where i could do with someone with experience to tell me how hard to push, when to back off, when to watch form etc. A good program is a good program, whether you pay for it or not.
post #21978 of 49339
I'm gonna start posting some lifting vids here. My shoulder is feeling good so I'm slowly lifting good, I'm still at like 40% of where I was last year. So plz dont judge. I dont work out with any friends anymore so I can't have someone watch my form unfortunately. Super happy to even be over head pressing 80lbs for 5 x 5. Far cry from my body weight OHP in january but w/e. I fixed the thing that injured me.
post #21979 of 49339
1. yes there is
2. i promise you diet is a part of it, and there are many people who have had your issues and have succeeded.

if you don't think a distance trainer can help you regulate intensity or work on your form then i don't know what to tell you. you don't have anything to lose, but suit yourself.
post #21980 of 49339
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Originally Posted by stinger70 View Post

2. the biggest issue is training itself, because it sure aint diet, so if the coach is not there to train you, its not much use. I can get a good program off the internet, but my ability to implement it is down to me in the gym, which is where i could do with someone with experience to tell me how hard to push, when to back off, when to watch form etc. A good program is a good program, whether you pay for it or not.

That's what videos are for. A good coach will be able to watch these and detect your form issues and sticking points. And based on how most of your posts in this thread for the last couple of years have either been about lifting related injuries or plateaus, it seems like you need someone like this.

I don't have a dog in this fight, but stinger, it usually seems like you have excuses on hand for nearly all of the advice dispensed for you in response to your chronic grievances.
post #21981 of 49339
Its just pretty obvious to me that there is a limit to progress. If i had some amazing coach, he might be able to push me 5-10% further or faster. If you gain your 1lb a week and lift hard, heavy and consistently, I dont think its a lot more complex than that, the rest is down to genetics.
post #21982 of 49339

Looking at that back picture you're probably bigger than me which leads to think how the fuck are his numbers so low.

post #21983 of 49339
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Originally Posted by stinger70 View Post

Its just pretty obvious to me that there is a limit to progress. If i had some amazing coach, he might be able to push me 5-10% further or faster. If you gain your 1lb a week and lift hard, heavy and consistently, I dont think its a lot more complex than that, the rest is down to genetics.

An amazing coach will be able to tell you why you're chronically getting hurt.
post #21984 of 49339
Being 200lbs, having your frame, and benching 140lbs I would say you aren't exactly pushing your genetic limits.
post #21985 of 49339

Yeah, I bench about as much as you and my squat were close to yours in the beginning of this summer, but you're like twice the size of me.

 

I agree with jarude and the rest of the guys; if you care about lifting and aesthetics as much as it seems and you have the money (let's face it, 300 bucks is not much for professional coaching), why would you not at least try it?

 

You say you could make progress about 5-10% faster. Isn't that alone worth it for you? They will also point out all your weaknesses, form issues, posture issues etc, and lead you in a direction to adress those and thus maker your gains come faster without injury.

 

 

I've only taking lifting seriously for half a year, am still at noob gains level and I'm even thinking about getting a coach after my next cut. 

post #21986 of 49339
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Originally Posted by stinger70 View Post

Its just pretty obvious to me that there is a limit to progress. If i had some amazing coach, he might be able to push me 5-10% further or faster. If you gain your 1lb a week and lift hard, heavy and consistently, I dont think its a lot more complex than that, the rest is down to genetics.

There is a limit to progress.

You, however, are nowhere near it.

And no, I'm not exaggerating.

NOWHERE.
post #21987 of 49339
stinger, where are you located?
post #21988 of 49339
completely offtopic:

UNIQLO Y U NO POST MORE UNIQLO STUFF IM TRYING TO TO BALL ON A BUDGET HERE
post #21989 of 49339
and by UNIQLO i mean UNDERCOVER
post #21990 of 49339
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Originally Posted by conceptionist View Post

Not really atm.

 

It was a severy injury though. I broke the arm straight off way up around the deltoid. My shoulder swole to the size of a watermelon. After 3 weeks of wearing a sling to support the arm, I couldn't lift a fork or raise my arm past 30-ish degrees.

 

I went to physiotherapist for one year. The arm got better, but we could never get 100% mobility back in the upper ranges overhead. We could improve over a session, and right after I always did her rehab strength program to strengthen new ranges. Next week - back to poor mobility.

 

She said she'd never seen anything like it before and there wasn't much else for her to do about it. I remember her saying it was a possibility that cartilages had formed around the shoulder to fill out the space were all the muscle had shrunk during my first weeks of being very weak. It really felt like that, just like there was a big pile of tissue in my shoulder blocking overhead movement. I chose between surgery and doing all the physiotherapist training from scratch again or just let it be. I chose the later.

 

Still haven't improved, and it's 3 years ago I broke it this winter. I've been working out regularly ever since and recently I got it checked again at a physiotherapist. He noticed the difference between the arms. Over a session, ROM increased a bit, but next day it's back to normal of course. I think I really need to stabilize and strengthen the muscles in the new ranges, but I never had any luck with that in the past.

 

It really doesn't hinder me in any way in normal life, but I'm certain it limit my strength gains in overhead pressing. I can reach approx 70 degrees overhead before I start to twist my upper body to compensate. 

 

Yikes that does sound bad. My advice would be to shop around for a better physiotherapist. If there are any good training facilities near you, I'd start asking around there. I've found there's a huge difference between working with a "regular" rehab person and a rehab person who has experience working with high-level athletes. After I tore up my wrist, the first few people I went to basically told me to stop lifting. I was living in SF after the surgery, so was able to get in to see K*, who gave me an actual rehab plan to get me lifting again. You should be able to find a physio who has experience with lifters or other athletes for whom "don't do that anymore" is not a reasonable bit of advice. The truth is after an injury like you may never be 100% again, but only being able to get to 70 degrees overhead is likely to cause you all sort of problems long-term. 

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