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Originally Posted by Scrumhalf View Post
Not the first - my core strength is certainly above average - can hold L-sits for over 10 seconds consistently, can do dragon flags, etc....... most certainly the 3rd - my leg strength sucks. Might be the 2nd... have to work on that.


alot of squats is mental. Drop down the weight a little, get used to pushing yourself.

front squats, box squats etc are all good too.
post #2162 of 57256
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Originally Posted by db_ggmm View Post
Dave Tate would add another one to the list. "Maybe you don't know how to fucking squat?"

If I were me and not that freak Scrumhalf, I would suggest another... "Maybe it's mental." Squatting is the only exercise that I have any fear of. I use front squats on occasion to build confidence.

hahaha yes!

I wanted to say this but the usual feedback I get when I tell someone (most people) that their form is bad is "NUH-UHHHH! my form is good! yours is bad! look how big my bis are!"
post #2163 of 57256
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Originally Posted by Cool The Kid View Post
Weak legs Ppl always say squats are a core exercise.... disregarding the fact that the legs go from a 45 degree bend to completely straight. Get those quads/hams/glutes stronger and u should squat more. Though the best cure for a weak squat is... more squats
I find that a lot of people lack the ham and glute strength in particular. which is why a lot of people have trouble getting deep. but more so, it's why a lot of people's form is off (knees shooting way past the toes, ankles hyper extended, etc). I'm a big advocate of box squats and paused squats to alleviate that problem.
post #2164 of 57256
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Originally Posted by mrchariybrown View Post
I find that a lot of people lack the ham and glute strength in particular. which is why a lot of people have trouble getting deep. but more so, it's why a lot of people's form is off (knees shooting way past the toes, ankles hyper extended, etc).

I'm a big advocate of box squats and paused squats to alleviate that problem.

i.e. me. I just don't know where they would go!

Also I know the third rep is bullshit.

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post #2165 of 57256
CS, some constructive feedback, I hope. You are about an inch or two too high: the crease of your hips should be below the top of your knee. As you noticed, your knees are sliding forward so not all of your muscles are working to get you out of the bottom Think about sitting back more, like sticking your butt out. Your upper body may lean forwards a bit more because of this. Your knees should finish their movement forward by the time you're 1/3-1/2 of the way down, and stay there the rest of the way down. Try it out with an empty bar to get a feeling of it. I can't tell how shoved out your knees are, but it's a usually useful thing to think about. You're also looking forward too much --- keep your spine and skull in straight line, and look down a little bit more. Imagine holding a baseball or orange under your chin. This may help with the previous two issues. edit: looking at the video again, I think you should be thinking about turning your legs out more. One common cause of knees sliding forward at the bottom is the squatter trying to reach good depth, but is impinged by their hips. Turning out your legs more (shoving the knees out) will clear the way and help you get down there. --Andre
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Originally Posted by mrchariybrown View Post
I find that a lot of people lack the ham and glute strength in particular. which is why a lot of people have trouble getting deep. but more so, it's why a lot of people's form is off (knees shooting way past the toes, ankles hyper extended, etc).

I'm a big advocate of box squats and paused squats to alleviate that problem.

Box squats are great for building confidence shooting out of the hole. I just added them in after realizing my knees were way out beyond my toes. Sitting back while keeping the shins mostly straight is pretty fucking strange when you first do it.
post #2167 of 57256
Shit, I was "cutting" for too long and finally accepted that I was eating in too far of a deficit for things not to go askew. My temperature both morning and evening is pretty low, so I'm upping my calories to eventually be at maintenance levels. Hopefully doing so for long enough will straighten things out.
post #2168 of 57256
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Originally Posted by CunningSmeagol View Post
i.e. me. I just don't know where they would go!

Also I know the third rep is bullshit.


you need to go lower. there should be a very slight bounce at the bottom, according to rippetoe
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post #2169 of 57256
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I don't know how the fuck you guys can do the asian squat. It's just not possible to get my weight on my heels without falling right over backwards.
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CS, you have a form issue that is very common where you start bending at the knees before your hips go back and down. it should be hips back -> hips down -> bend knees. like rikkar said, box squats really help with this form correction.
post #2171 of 57256
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Originally Posted by A Y View Post
CS, some constructive feedback, I hope. You are about an inch or two too high: the crease of your hips should be below the top of your knee. As you noticed, your knees are sliding forward so not all of your muscles are working to get you out of the bottom Think about sitting back more, like sticking your butt out. Your upper body may lean forwards a bit more because of this. Your knees should finish their movement forward by the time you're 1/3-1/2 of the way down, and stay there the rest of the way down. Try it out with an empty bar to get a feeling of it. I can't tell how shoved out your knees are, but it's a usually useful thing to think about. You're also looking forward too much --- keep your spine and skull in straight line, and look down a little bit more. Imagine holding a baseball or orange under your chin. This may help with the previous two issues. edit: looking at the video again, I think you should be thinking about turning your legs out more. One common cause of knees sliding forward at the bottom is the squatter trying to reach good depth, but is impinged by their hips. Turning out your legs more (shoving the knees out) will clear the way and help you get down there. --Andre
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Originally Posted by pebblegrain View Post
you need to go lower. there should be a very slight bounce at the bottom, according to rippetoe
Thanks, guys. Just wanted to note that Andre's quote, though I agree with it, does not describe how Rippetoe squats or teaches the squat. People with far bigger squats endorse nearly to a man a head up, legs wide, knees back form. Rippetoe I think recognizes this but claims that the knees forward, legs close squat that he does is more relevant to athletes. (EDIT: just noticed that AY's post recommends head down; still the main difference between a PL squat and Rip's is the knee business) I just want to do what's safe for my knees. I will try an empty bar and see if I can't figure out how to balance myself without my knees moving forward.
post #2172 of 57256
That reminds me, I saw some dude doing some miserable looking squats tonight. He was racking some impressive weight (close to 300 from the looks of it), but his form was so god awful that I cringed any time he descended. He didn't just bend his knees too soon, he looked like he was buckling under the weight of the bar with each descent. Buckling and falling forward.
post #2173 of 57256
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Originally Posted by APK View Post
That reminds me, I saw some dude doing some miserable looking squats tonight. He was racking some impressive weight (close to 300 from the looks of it), but his form was so god awful that I cringed any time he descended. He didn't just bend his knees too soon, he looked like he was buckling under the weight of the bar with each descent. Buckling and falling forward.

Thanks :sadface:
post #2174 of 57256
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Originally Posted by Eason View Post
I don't know how the fuck you guys can do the asian squat. It's just not possible to get my weight on my heels without falling right over backwards.
Think of suspending your hips/torso between your legs, rather than sitting on top of your legs.
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post #2175 of 57256
hey CS, one more thing. if you're going to try to sit back more and fix your form, then you may want to not use a completely empty bar. it may not make a difference for you, but I find that I need at least a little weight on the bar or else I find it hard to sit back and get my form how I like it.
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