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post #21586 of 29361
11/2/12 at 2:50pm
wha? weren't you the one excited by ex?
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post #21587 of 29361
11/2/12 at 2:51pm
Are there any good ways to get around fucked up shoulders? One of them gets so badly aggravated by all movements on chest day, and i dont dare even work shoulders any more. Feels like it catches on the way down. Tried doing plenty of shoulder dislocations but im pretty sure it just makes things worse. I havent had much shoulder problems for ages, and my form, posture and warm up is better now than it ever was, so i dont understand why it is flaring up so bad.
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post #21588 of 29361
11/2/12 at 3:35pm
I'm the king of shoulder problems. Where does it hurt?
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post #21589 of 29361
11/2/12 at 4:19pm
When its hurting during a workout, if i press on the area behind the clavicle, to the back of the shoulder, it hurts a lot. I also get pain right in the front of the shoulder during pressing movements.
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post #21590 of 29361
11/2/12 at 4:49pm
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Originally Posted by APK View Post

LOL. Charlie is like an ambulance chaser with that referral credit.

Haha I honestly don't care if I get the referral credit anymore. It's nice but I'd gladly pay the chump change it takes for constant access to John's advice/programming.

It is good to see guys that are serious about lifting get some proper guidance from guys that know what they're doing and have the experience and numbers to back it up, instead of trying to figure it out from a bunch of crappy info on the internet (a lot of the time, thread isn't an exception). If not John, I also suggest Chris Duffin (not sure if he still does online training) or Jason Manenkoff. I know for a fact those two guys know their shit and have the credentials, and I don't benefit from referring people to them at all. I'm sure there are more guys out there too but I can't back them up since I haven't worked with them or know them very well.
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Charlie owes me some money for wasting my time with Ex

Lol what happened with you and him?
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post #21591 of 29361
11/2/12 at 5:13pm
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Charlie owes me some money for wasting my time with Ex

Bizarre comment. You worked with him for what, three months or less? And if he was such a waste of money, then...
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Gotta say, this dieting stuff has taken me pretty close to being a DYEL bro.. but I look better and for the first time in like 6 years actually have a drop from my shoudlers to waist.. i think general Styleforum would approve. Pinder says he's going to take me down to single digit body fat then build me up while remaining super lean...

So it sounded like under his watch, you were dropping fat, something I remember you posting about your struggles with. You sounded pretty impressed with the routine he gave you, too, so I'm not seeing how you "wasted" money, especially given how inexpensive his services are.

It'd be cool if you could elaborate on your grievances. It's kind of shitty to make it sound like John's services were useless without substantiating why, especially since it didn't sound like you were having issues while you were actually training under his watch.
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post #21592 of 29361
11/2/12 at 5:13pm
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Are there any good ways to get around fucked up shoulders? One of them gets so badly aggravated by all movements on chest day, and i dont dare even work shoulders any more. Feels like it catches on the way down. Tried doing plenty of shoulder dislocations but im pretty sure it just makes things worse. I havent had much shoulder problems for ages, and my form, posture and warm up is better now than it ever was, so i dont understand why it is flaring up so bad.
Sounds like you are getting impingement in the socket. You need to get stability back before you can do anything. If you don't know what to do, go see a specialist.
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post #21593 of 29361
11/2/12 at 5:15pm
Fat Gripz are also too pricey for my liking and since it's almost winter, I couldn't find any pool noodles to try TKJTG's DIY suggestion. So I wound up buying a couple of $2 12" x 12" dish rags from WalMart. Folded lengthwise and wrapped each one around the bar and voila, knockoff Fat Gripz.
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post #21594 of 29361
11/2/12 at 5:18pm
My problem was that he completely dropped off. It's been 3 months since I've heard from him. He did teach me how to diet properly, which i said to the dude that PMed me. I write better workouts for myself and now that I'm familiar with dieting, it's just worked out better anyways.
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post #21595 of 29361
11/2/12 at 5:27pm
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My problem was that he completely dropped off. It's been 3 months since I've heard from him. He did teach me how to diet properly, which i said to the dude that PMed me. I write better workouts for myself and now that I'm familiar with dieting, it's just worked out better anyways.

I've never trained with anyone else, so I legitimately don't know: Is it normal for someone training you online to regularly contact you? I always just assumed John (or most other somewhat known trainers) have too many clients to make it logistically possible to call up all of his clients every week. I'll tell you this: I've been amazed at how quickly accessible he is. If I need to go over something with him, I can shoot him a text or an email and he responds within minutes most time and can usually do a phone call or Skype shortly after that. He's also quick to watch your videos and pass back advice / fixes.

Maybe it's just a case of different expectations, but communication with John is probably the last area of working with him that I would find myself taking issue with.
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post #21596 of 29361
11/2/12 at 5:32pm
Dunno, maybe I'm just a shitty communicator then. Like I said thought it has worked out fine in the end.

edit: buy yea following his diet I had abs in like 2 weeks. Also with Carb Backloading too.
Edited by Coldsnap - 11/2/12 at 5:43pm
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post #21597 of 29361
11/2/12 at 5:33pm
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When its hurting during a workout, if i press on the area behind the clavicle, to the back of the shoulder, it hurts a lot. I also get pain right in the front of the shoulder during pressing movements.

Sounds like you didn't allow your scapula to move while benching and now you've got an impingement in the back and a rc strain in the front.

of course, don't take my word for it, you should see a PT.
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post #21598 of 29361
11/2/12 at 5:35pm
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I don't know if this will help you, but I feel like typing up a story, so here goes:
There is a new guy at my gym. I had a conversation with him a few days ago where he told me all his numbers (I never asked to hear them) and then asked me my training schedule. I told him the days I train. He said he's looking for someone to train powerlifting, I decided to stick around and listen to him further. He asked me if I do speed days, max effort days, etc. I told him no. He was shocked. He told me "Man, you gotta do speed work, thats how you get strong." I said "ok." He asked me my days again, I told him I have 2 "leg" days and 2 push/pull. He asked me if I do speed work again, I said no.
I said to him: "It sounds to me like you follow westside" He replied with "yes but actually Laura Phelps writes my programs" (he is a recent transplant from Cincinnati). Then he talked about Laura Phelps, and despite the fact that I told him "Yes I know of that man" he continued to talk about her and how explosive she is. He then said "well if you want to train we should work something out, there's not many people into powerlifting here and so it'd be conducive to our training." I told him "Well, yeah man, let me know your schedule as far as when you are here and we can figure something out, but I don't train westside and do not plan on doing it ever because I don't agree with 70% of what Louie says."
I then saw him warm up with a bar hitting his squats 3" above parallel.
Moral of the story? Don't be like that guy.

I hope what you're trying to say is simply don't be a gym retard who doesn't focus on technique (shouldn't that be half of what the DE days are?) and not that I should avoid westside at all costs, because I don't know what else to do frown.gif
Edited by Eason - 11/2/12 at 7:44pm
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post #21599 of 29361
11/2/12 at 5:53pm
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I've never trained with anyone else, so I legitimately don't know: Is it normal for someone training you online to regularly contact you? I always just assumed John (or most other somewhat known trainers) have too many clients to make it logistically possible to call up all of his clients every week. I'll tell you this: I've been amazed at how quickly accessible he is. If I need to go over something with him, I can shoot him a text or an email and he responds within minutes most time and can usually do a phone call or Skype shortly after that. He's also quick to watch your videos and pass back advice / fixes.
Maybe it's just a case of different expectations, but communication with John is probably the last area of working with him that I would find myself taking issue with.

You nailed it on the head.
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post #21600 of 29361
11/2/12 at 6:46pm
If someone here wants some other people to get training from, PM me.
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