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post #1636 of 57257
I'd almost forgotten how great it feels to train in a calorie surplus... crazy energy and the recovery is muuuuch faster. I'm currently running a 4 wk mini-bulk, raised my cals to 500-600 above maintenance and shuffling carbs around my workout. Gotta see where I'm at four weeks from now and adjust accordingly... I mean, I'll probably lose some definition, that's for sure, but hoping to get at least some strength gains.
post #1637 of 57257
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Originally Posted by HgaleK View Post
Because girls with asses think that they're fat. I'm not talking about chubby girls with ass, but simply girls with ass.
Ok, but if she doesn't do cardio she will get fat. Maybe she was before and doesn't want to get back there. Who knows?
post #1638 of 57257
Wrapping up approx wave 6 of Wendler531 this month. The closest lift to failing is the overhead press (no surprise), but I'm not sure when it will finally crap out. Now that I think about it, I should gather a record of my original lifts, damn!

I have not had big gains because of the 10% underestimate to start the program (which I extra emphasized) so it took me 3 months to get back to my starting numbers. What I am doing right now, though, is lifting my previous maxes for 8-10 reps instead of 3. Maybe I will test my 3RM's during this next deload week.

This program definitely works for me, although I feel I have my own needs which dictated a slightly different take on the assistance work (n b4 "not the program" - Wendler says you can do whatever assistance work is good for you).

I lean towards 3x8 for assistance work. I use 3x8 because I need to keep my endurance up for the max effort sets and I still want to tax my system enough to stimulate additional muscle growth. The 5x10's recommended in the program just feel far too much like pure endurance work and cardio for me.

If the day ever comes that I want to lose 10 lbs, I will go 5x10, but my hunch is that the book emphasizes this rep scheme because it is assumed the average guy reading it is overweight, not underweight. 5x10 causes my body experience that slightly sickly feeling of under fed workouts, if you know what I mean.

I also do the deload weeks differently lately. I seem to forget how heavy the bar is very quickly, so I don't give my body time to forget. I cut out all assistance work, but I will do the previous week again for the major lifts (the 531 week). As I'm currently busting out 6 reps on average for the "1" set, I'll split that up in to 3x2 or 2x3 to avoid the crushing fatigue.

I also eat ice cream and hamburger every day that I work out and haven't gain a pound, although I'm trying.
post #1639 of 57257
db_ggmm: what were your maxes when you started 5/3/1, and what are they now? I did 5/3/1 for half a year and made some excellent progress, curious to see what others get out of it

indesertum: sore forearms after cleans makes it sound like your pull with your arms, which you ideally shouldn't really use at all
post #1640 of 57257
I'm doing 5/3/1 as well. It's a snails pace as far as getting your #'s up (and now especially because my schedule is really erratic) but i like how you can tailor assistance work to what you like. For it me, it's a 4-day split with very specific #'s for the big lifts and then my regular 3x8 bodybuilding routine for the rest of the workout. Random thought/brag of the day: I hooked up with a girl this weekend who gushed about how great my abs and arms were. In fact, I've been getting a ton of compliments on my arms. It's funny that they're pretty much the bottom of the list of things i prioritize (3x8 curls at the end of my deadlift workout, maybe a few sets of tricep presses to round out a bench workout). Then again, I've had more and more girls grab my legs since I've started squatting all the time. No compliments on my firm and toned butt from dead-lifts though
post #1641 of 57257
i don't do anything for arms at all.

occasionally i do chinups instead of pullups, but otherwise the only assistance work i do is strict standing military press. but that's not really assistance.



random thought; i've started doing a bit of intermittent fasting. Eat dinner at 6pm, go for a run around 9am the next morning, then i'm not hungry till like 2pm. It's great.
post #1642 of 57257
I've dropped almost all curls out of my routine, I feel my arms are getting hit pretty good with heavy rows. If anything, I like having big forearms and not-huge bi's and tri's.
post #1643 of 57257
Haven't done arms in ages. I do dips and close grip bench press... between those and chinups, diamond pushups etc. I think my arms get plenty of action.
post #1644 of 57257
I just finished reading every page of this thread (over the course of a week or so). Some great advice in here.
post #1645 of 57257
I take more enjoyment from my arm days than any other than perhaps chest. Of course chest, back, and shoulder lifts all hit arms as a by product, but I do everything to minimize arm involvement on those days, as my goal is aesthetic and not necessarily explosive strength (which isn't to say the two are mutually exclusive). Is not doing direct arm work a point of pride for the above posters?
post #1646 of 57257
For me, its doing minimal arm work and having better arms than the Curly McChickenlegs i see at the gym that I take pride in
post #1647 of 57257
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Originally Posted by Binker View Post
I take more enjoyment from my arm days than any other than perhaps chest. Of course chest, back, and shoulder lifts all hit arms as a by product, but I do everything to minimize arm involvement on those days, as my goal is aesthetic and not necessarily explosive strength (which isn't to say the two are mutually exclusive). Is not doing direct arm work a point of pride for the above posters?

Not at all.

Also, i really don't think arm work is aesthetically pleasing. When they are done as a by product of other lifts, they get bigger in proportion to other things.

there are heaps of dudes with big arms who just look like gorillas, especially if they're short. Much better to keep them in proportion.


The most aesthetically pleasing area exercise is military press IMO. All clothes fit from the shoulders.
post #1648 of 57257
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Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
The most aesthetically pleasing area exercise is military press IMO. All clothes fit from the shoulders.

co-sign this.
post #1649 of 57257
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Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
Also, i really don't think arm work is aesthetically pleasing. When they are done as a by product of other lifts, they get bigger in proportion to other things.

or perhaps they don't, because maybe they aren't being hit enough. direct arm work does not necessarily result in disproportionately large arms any more than not doing direct arm work necessarily results in proportionate arms. my arms are actually quite small in comparison to my width throughout the body.

and I actually agree with you, I don't particularly like the look of big arms even on generally huge people. i think wide and big throughout the body with smaller, defined arms is a generally more appealing look
post #1650 of 57257
The biceps get hit alot more with the core lifts than the average gym rat thinks, as long as they are doing them properly. But I don't think that doing dedicated arm work is something to neglect just because they are being worked indirectly through other lifts. You wouldn't drop all specific work for the hamstrings just because they are targeted through deads and squats would you? I believe a well rounded program should include direct arm work as having strong biceps and triceps is integral to overall strength. Just don't overdo it to the extent it has a negative effect on the recovery of your larger muscle groups. /xenox
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