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post #14851 of 47717
Langargian is front squatting, quads are definitely involved.

I don't really find quads to be the limiting factor in the back squat. They're obviously used and they get sore afterwards, but if I miss a squat it's from loosing tension through my upper back, lower back, core and falling forward and not being able to drive up.
post #14852 of 47717
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Originally Posted by joshuadowen View Post

If you are squatting properly, quads should barely be involved at all...

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Barbell Full Squat

Classification
Utility: Basic
Mechanics: Compound
Force: Push

Muscles

Target
* Quadriceps

Synergists
* Gluteus Maximus
* Adductor Magnus
* Soleus

Dynamic Stabilizers
* Hamstrings
* Gastrocnemius

Stabilizers
* Erector Spinae

Antagonist Stabilizers
* Rectus Abdominis
* Obliques


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post #14853 of 47717
"barely involved at all"

Ok, dude, ok. This isn't a discussion worth having. GL with your non-quad squatting endeavors.
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Originally Posted by joshuadowen View Post


If you are squatting properly, quads should barely be involved at all...


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post #14855 of 47717
This is like when key board warriors who like mark ripptoe/ dave tate/ louie simmons ass hole think that the bench press is a lat movement and the chest isn't involved at all. Quads extend the knee, you are extending the knee when you squat quads are used when you squat.
post #14856 of 47717
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Originally Posted by fuji View Post

Whats the name of those blue knee sleeves oly lifters wear? Left knees acting up and I don't feel like wearing knee wraps for every set.

http://www.dynamic-eleiko.com/

The blue ones are older models that everyone seems to like better. I used the new model grey one when I olympic lifted and loved them.
post #14857 of 47717
Thanks man, will think about getting a pair. Awfully expensive. Might just do some leg extensions and hope the pain goes away.
post #14858 of 47717
jackals gym has the old ones, or did. i bought mine *semi* recently
post #14859 of 47717
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Originally Posted by fuji View Post

This is like when key board warriors who like mark ripptoe/ dave tate/ louie simmons ass hole think that the bench press is a lat movement and the chest isn't involved at all. Quads extend the knee, you are extending the knee when you squat quads are used when you squat.

Used, sure, but not a source of much strength. Properly executed squats are a posterior chain exercise. Squatting strength comes from hip extension, generated by hamstrings and glutes, not from knee extension generated by quads. The posterior chain is significantly more powerful. If you are squatting with decent form, you will never miss a lift because of insufficient quad strength.
post #14860 of 47717
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Originally Posted by speedy4500 View Post

Front squat 140kg (315lb) in the bag. Rewarded myself by eating 4 cupcakes after workout. And also came to realization that I think I like front squat more than back squat.

Front squat is fun. Second only to Overhead Squat for me.
post #14861 of 47717
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Originally Posted by db_ggmm 
You're asking how 2 days is enough to lose strength and the reality of it is that it is not possible to lose that much legitimate strength in 2 days from eating 2.5 kcal / day.

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Properly executed squats are a posterior chain exercise. Squatting strength comes from hip extension, generated by hamstrings and glutes, not from knee extension generated by quads. The posterior chain is significantly more powerful. If you are squatting with decent form, you will never miss a lift because of insufficient quad strength.

Doesn't this depend on your stance?
post #14862 of 47717
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Originally Posted by GraphicNovelty View Post

Soccer was a blast. I pushed around people who had a good 6+ inches on me and basically acted as a wall controlled by my buddies.
I'm also at a much better conditioning level then I expected.

Sounds like you'll make a good centre back then. If you can hack, push and jump you'll make a decent CB.
post #14863 of 47717
Yes and no. While it is possible to squat in such a way as to emphasize quad use, doing so gets you out of the realm of good squat technique. There are body builders who do this, but a) it doesn't do much for functional strength, and b) puts horizontal pressure on the knees which makes the movement significantly more likely to cause injury.

There's really no reason to squat in such a way so as to emphasize quads. Knee extension isn't where the power is.
post #14864 of 47717
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Originally Posted by joshuadowen View Post

Yes and no. While it is possible to squat in such a way as to emphasize quad use, doing so gets you out of the realm of good squat technique. There are body builders who do this, but a) it doesn't do much for functional strength, and b) puts horizontal pressure on the knees which makes the movement significantly more likely to cause injury.
There's really no reason to squat in such a way so as to emphasize quads. Knee extension isn't where the power is.

well except for hypertrophy.
post #14865 of 47717
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Originally Posted by knucks View Post

jackals gym has the old ones, or did. i bought mine *semi* recently

old rehbands (7mm blue ones) are way better

mfw rehbands smell like fucking death no matter how much you wash them

also have to build some jerk blocks for the gym, should be a fun project - having a few beers with our lifters and building them.
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