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post #1126 of 47807
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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post
every day hiit is pretty hard on your body. 3 days is a week is enough. the key is intensity. percieved rate of exertion should be around 8, 9, (0-10, with 10 being the worst).

also after 3 weeks the effects taper off, so you might want to switch it up after 3 weeks.

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Originally Posted by Scrumhalf View Post
Everyday HIIT is injury waiting to happen. Even HIIT 3 times a week seems excessive to me. I would do HIIT twice a week and include a LISS workout for the 3rd. Maybe a long slow run following by stretching may help with recovery.

I'm doing no more than 3 HIIT sessions a week with the absolute hardest being at the end of the week so I have 2 days recovery. I've eased into it over the last 2 months and I've run regularly for the last 5 or 6 years in various capacities.

bottom line is, I just really despise long slow runs. When I had access to ergs it was fine because I can do 30, 45 or even hr erg sessions no problem as long as I have AC and music, but running around a track for miles and miles is death and running on asphalt is just harsh.

I have no patience for runs longer than 4 or 5 miles max, even with music. Also, I occasionally get really tight in the achilles/calves when I run as opposed to full on sprinting. I could never explain that, it just gets tight and I have to rest/stretch for 10 or so minutes before they calm down and I can run again.
post #1127 of 47807
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Originally Posted by Cary Grant View Post
I have similar BA issues. I use Purple Wraath from time to time and love it. But occasionally I get the BA reaction bad enough that it upsets my stomach.

I used to be all about Controlled Labs products, but got to the point where I couldn't justify the extra cost (even though CL is pretty cheap compared to the bigger companies) for what amounts to basic supplements. I've never taken BA before but had hoped I wouldn't be affected by the tingles; just can't stand the feeling.

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Originally Posted by db_ggmm View Post
I'm at the end of my 3rd or 4rth wave of Wendler531 and finally getting to legitimate rep maxes (took a while because I under estimated my 1RM's pretty hard).

I'm on the third week of three waves of 531, and I've gotten the same results. New pr's on every single lift since I started; the program has my vote for sure!

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Originally Posted by fuji View Post
I started taking 2 scoops of whey after my work out and 1 scoop of creatine before about a week ago. Increased by bench press by 20lb and doubled my reps and increased my deadlift by 30lb. Before that I was only taking 1 scoop of whey and no creatine. Feeling a lot more toned too. Any other supplements I should try?

Sounds like your body responds very well to creatine! It's interesting how some respond in a huge way to creatine while it doesn't do shit for others. I myself am somewhere in the middle. It has enough of an affect to keep taking it but it's not really a "holy shit this is great" product for me. I'm taking the German mono from Biotest if anyone gives a shit
post #1128 of 47807
I pulled a douche move in the gym today.

This backstory is this- there are a couple of young dudes obviously doing a Starting-Strength type program, always seem to be in the gym the same time as me. It's nice that theyre training somewhat effectively, but they do some douchy stuff. Making little scences after their sets in celebration, when the weight on the bar doesn't justify it. Yes you lift more than the average bear in our commercial NYC gym, very big deal.

Their deadlifting in particular chaps my ass. They get vocal on their last rep, then proceed to drop the bar from waist-high (no bumpers) and walk away like theyre the shit. Leaving the staff or whomever to pick up after them. This is every week, and the 'stonger' of the two is pulling all of 280lb last I saw.

So today I see theyre about to start a deadlifting session and ask to work in, as floorspace is limited. I can tell theyre searching for any excuse in the world to turn me away...deadlifting is obviously a special time they share together...but they agree. The goal is to inject a little humility into their workout, so Im going to see if I can powerclean what they pull. They warm up with 145, I hang clean 5 reps. 185, I hang clean it. They load up 2 plates and one asks me if Im going to keep going with the cleans. Of course I am- I rip off 5 power cleans like I could have thrown the bar through the ceiling. The stronger guy pulls a working set of 5x275 (lowers the bar back to the ground!) I sense some confused looks behind me as I chalk up and step to the bar. Powerclean 275 for a triple. We unload and rack the bar together and go on our merry ways...
post #1129 of 47807
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Originally Posted by fuji View Post
I started taking 2 scoops of whey after my work out and 1 scoop of creatine before about a week ago. Increased by bench press by 20lb and doubled my reps and increased my deadlift by 30lb. Before that I was only taking 1 scoop of whey and no creatine. Feeling a lot more toned too. Any other supplements I should try?
Creatine is awesome. And to be honest, it's one of the only ones that's been proven to work. If you take creatine and lift weights you will get stronger and gain more muscle. A lot of people like to take other supplements before hand to "get pumped" (NO Explode, Black Powder, etc.). These generally contain nitric oxide, which dilates your blood vessels. This allows more blood to go to your muscles. They also contain a lot of caffeine, so that really wakes you up. I've tried them before, and never really felt like they made much of a difference. I can see them being useful if you're working out after a long day at work, or if you have trouble getting motivated in the morning. However, they're pricey. My advice would be just stick with what you're doing. Only thing I would change is to maybe take the second scoop of whey later in the day (studies have shown that your body can only process so much protein at once). I like to take some before I go to bed. Also, it's beneficial to take some simple carbs with protein after working out. The carbs causes a slight insulin spike, which delivers the protein straight to your damaged muscles. Keep it up! Sounds like you're making great progress.
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Originally Posted by Pennglock View Post
Powerclean 275 for a triple. We unload and rack the bar together and go on our merry ways...
Eh, in the long run it'll be good for them. Think of it more as a favor. BTW sick job on the cleans. That's a lift I've always struggled with.
post #1130 of 47807
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Originally Posted by Pennglock View Post
I pulled a douche move in the gym today.

This backstory is this- there are a couple of young dudes obviously doing a Starting-Strength type program, always seem to be in the gym the same time as me. It's nice that theyre training somewhat effectively, but they do some douchy stuff. Making little scences after their sets in celebration, when the weight on the bar doesn't justify it. Yes you lift more than the average bear in our commercial NYC gym, very big deal.

Their deadlifting in particular chaps my ass. They get vocal on their last rep, then proceed to drop the bar from waist-high (no bumpers) and walk away like theyre the shit. Leaving the staff or whomever to pick up after them. This is every week, and the 'stonger' of the two is pulling all of 280lb last I saw.

So today I see theyre about to start a deadlifting session and ask to work in, as floorspace is limited. I can tell theyre searching for any excuse in the world to turn me away...deadlifting is obviously a special time they share together...but they agree. The goal is to inject a little humility into their workout, so Im going to see if I can powerclean what they pull. They warm up with 145, I hang clean 5 reps. 185, I hang clean it. They load up 2 plates and one asks me if Im going to keep going with the cleans. Of course I am- I rip off 5 power cleans like I could have thrown the bar through the ceiling. The stronger guy pulls a working set of 5x275 (lowers the bar back to the ground!) I sense some confused looks behind me as I chalk up and step to the bar. Powerclean 275 for a triple. We unload and rack the bar together and go on our merry ways...

quoting this cuz its fuckin sweet

good job B)

no offense to anyone here but if you aren't repping out at least 2x bodyweight from the floor anyone who is actually strong or has been training for a long time doesn't give a fuck
post #1131 of 47807
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Originally Posted by Pennglock View Post
I pulled a douche move in the gym today.
What was douchey about that?
post #1132 of 47807
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Originally Posted by bbaquiran View Post
What was douchey about that?
well he basically did something way harder with the same weight as the other guys were deadlifting, if someone grabbed the weight i was pulling and started power cleaning it and push-pressing it i'd probably feel like a bitch i did something similar a few months back, though - i came in the gym in a very pissed off mood ready to squat at like 2am, and some guy was in the rack doing fucking shrugs so i loaded up a bar with 225lb on the flat bench, cleaned it up, push pressed it onto my back and started squatting it in the middle of the gym while staring him down in the mirror it was a real dick move but i really wanted to squat
post #1133 of 47807
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Originally Posted by Pennglock View Post
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You are my hero... man that poundage on those powercleans is impressive indeed. Now if only I could some day get the hang of that lift, I'd be a happy man.

Also, I was wondering... are any of you guys powerlifters? I'm asking b/c a lot of posters here give out very solid advice regarding lift technique and such, just thought maybe some of you competed... or is it just a hobby?
post #1134 of 47807
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Originally Posted by hastur View Post
well he basically did something way harder with the same weight as the other guys were deadlifting, if someone grabbed the weight i was pulling and started power cleaning it and push-pressing it i'd probably feel like a bitch

i did something similar a few months back, though - i came in the gym in a very pissed off mood ready to squat at like 2am, and some guy was in the rack doing fucking shrugs so i loaded up a bar with 225lb on the flat bench, cleaned it up, push pressed it onto my back and started squatting it in the middle of the gym while staring him down in the mirror

it was a real dick move but i really wanted to squat

Now this is funny.

When I worked at a gym, we'd always walk up to eachother when doing squats/dl's/bench and ask "oh hey, doing curls today?" or like (looking at 225) "oh, lateral raises?".
post #1135 of 47807
Creatine ceratinly does work... as long as you are not a non-responder, and about 30% of persons are non-responders, meaning it does nothing for them.
post #1136 of 47807
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Originally Posted by CunningSmeagol View Post
As I've been lifting and getting stronger for about a year now, I've noticed that I don't have the "V" taper I once had. I actually look more cylindrical now. Anyone else have this happen? I can do all the lifts that I started with at much higher weights now, and I have less body-fat. I just don't have a "V" like before.
+1. This happened to me, IDK why. Speaking on the subjects of HIIT and 5/3/1, i want to work both into a program. Should I just do 2 days of HIIT on my off days? Also, what even is a good HIIT program? Just keep trying to add more sprints? I googled around and found vague stuff but i like to be "by the book" so to speak
post #1137 of 47807
For HIIT - hill sprints (Wendler) or tabatas? I can't remember what it was, but I read one guy say that there is only one acceptable tabata exercise. There was a logic to it. I am pretty sure it was a squat, but I can't remember front or back. It's important to be safe due to the level of exhaustion.



Going out on a limb, but when one is being hypercritical of their own physique, weight lifting in certain time frames doesn't necessarily produce changes that are always appreciated. It might be easier to thicken your torso, reducing taper, than it is to build up your shoulders, lats, etc, increasing taper. Your non-lifting version of you probably had a weak core and a program based on compound movements will definitely change your core.

I have considered this for myself and it is confusing because my waist size is actually the same or even slightly smaller, but the funny thing is - I think I look fatter in the mirror week by week and am honestly surprised to see I still weigh the same each day after my morning bomb. What love handles I have are now more pronounced because there are now obliques underneath them.

When I suck in my air for a lift, I'm sometimes surprised by how much belly I have now. I never understood how people with flat bellies could flex them and make them huge. I get it a little better now. They always had a layer of muscle which they could flex and I could never flex my skinnyfat. This is especially true of my upper abs which stick out like a tumor when I tighten up. I'm also either not thin, strong, or genetically inclined towards highly separated abdominals, so my midsection is mostly a hard lump with the bulking 1/2 inch of fat at the bottom. I actually ran into trouble with a couple shirts because if I worked out that day my upper abs would be too big! Definitely looked strange.
post #1138 of 47807
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Originally Posted by Pennglock View Post
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This made my day. Thank-you.
post #1139 of 47807
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Originally Posted by db_ggmm View Post
For HIIT - hill sprints (Wendler) or tabatas? I can't remember what it was, but I read one guy say that there is only one acceptable tabata exercise. There was a logic to it. I am pretty sure it was a squat, but I can't remember front or back.

I've said this before and I'll say it again - heavy weights and tabatas shouldn't mix. Tabata squats are a disaster waiting to happen. Maybe you can get away with it with bodyweight squats but absolutely no weights!!

There are lots of conditioning options. No reason to stick with just one although hill sprints are as good as they come. Also try tabata burpees. Or do burpees for time - max burpees in 5 minutes or 50 burpees as fast as you can. Another killer.conditioning workout that I have been using is:

Circuit - 5 rounds with 30 seconds between rounds:
Burpees - 30 sec
Jumping jacks - 30 sec
Mountain climbers - 30 sec
Split jumps - 30 sec
Rest 30 sec

Repeat 5 times. Guaranteed killer
If it gets easy, drop the 30sec rest between rounds

The exercises can also be changed out. For exa
Ple I sometimes switch out the mountain climbers for grasshoppers.

Give it a shot - you will like it!
post #1140 of 47807
Looked it up, it's front squats cause the bar is easy to dump (or use dumbs).
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