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post #31 of 183
12/21/09 at 12:37am
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They take up sidewalks, fill up elevators, and can make riding in coach absolute hell.
Yeah, having someone grossly obese siting next to you on a plane sucks. Other than that though, toughen up, guy.
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Well, I'm of the opinion that a fat person should be actively trying to lose weight and to become healthier.
Ok, but what if they've decided not to? Why shouldn't they dress well?

The rest of the stuff you typed is you projecting your beliefs. And how is it an "indefensible" position? If anything, your postion is going to be far harder to defend. You don't get to tell other people what to do.

Honestly, I'm not trying to defend being over weight. I'm just taking issue with your attitude about it. Other than the possibility of an uncomfortable plane ride, they are in no way causing you any discomfort. If the sight of someone being that heavy bothers you that much, you might want to look into why.

On the other hand, what gives you the right to tell people what to do with their lives? If they want to buy a MTM suit when they're 250+, there's absolutely nohing wrong with it.
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Originally Posted by CunningSmeagol View Post
He's not projecting motivations onto fat people. He's saying what being fat implies socially. If anything he's projecting his perceptions of fat people on everyone else. But he's probably right. When's the last time you heard someone say "that guy's so underweight and lazy"?
He is though. He's calling them gluttonous and/or lazy.

No argument that it's frowned upon socially, but really, that's a larger problem than someone weighing too much. People shouldn't be making their life choices on the basis of what makes other people happy.

And I grew up a beanpole too. I got totally teased about it.
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post #32 of 183
12/21/09 at 1:05am
This is a forum where people pose questions with the expectation of getting some opinions back. I am not writing to my congressman to ask him to introduce a bill that will make being fat illegal. You have this problem with me "telling people what to do". I am not telling anyone what to do. I am giving you my opinion that fat people are fat because of one or several destructive behaviors that they're sort of covering up by buying nice clothes. How else does one get fat besides eating and lack of activity? The number of people who became fat due to other reasons would be tiny next to the amount of people who are as I say, lazy gluttons. A guy at 250, unless he's an MMA fighter or a football star, should be working like hell to get to a normal body weight. You don't like that opinion, fine. I'm not trying to make this pass into law, I'm simply answering the question that was asked. So no, if you're overweight, you shouldn't be buying nice clothes.
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post #33 of 183
12/21/09 at 2:16am
^If you think about it the clothes have nothing to do with your position. Change the title to Fat people quit being fat.
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post #34 of 183
12/21/09 at 2:18am
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^If you think about it the clothes have nothing to do with your position. Change the title to Fat people quit being fat.

No, my position is essentially that by buying nice clothes, a fat person is acknowledging that their situation is OK and have no intentions of doing anything but at least maintaining their current weight.
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post #35 of 183
12/21/09 at 2:28am
So then you are in fact saying being fat is not ok? Assuming you aren't judging fat people your statement is pointless. Might as well make a thread called not doing your math HW is bad. Or you do mean to disparage the larger folk in which case your an asshole. This thread is based on a premise thats extremely dumb. Take a dude like gianfranco ferre, should he have been wearing sweatpants.
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post #36 of 183
12/21/09 at 2:28am
Fat people are just lazy and full of excuses.
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post #37 of 183
12/21/09 at 2:32am
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So then you are in fact saying being fat is not ok?
Of course that's what I'm saying. Look at the fucking question:"If you're overweight, why buy nice clothes?" There's a value judgment being made. Of course I'd have to think that being fat is not ok if I were to not endorse an act of accepting it or even trying to mitigate the fact that there is a problem by "covering" it up so to speak. I've had fat friends and I may like them as people but I'll certainly encourage them to lose weight and help them in any way I can, just as they have judged me when I've been behaving badly in other ways as well. Fat is a flaw, just like many other things are and I think that people should endeavor to fix their flaws. If a fat person wants to stay fat then that's fine, but if I'm asked whether or not I think it's ok for them to just give up, then I will tell you exactly what I've been saying now. It's not like I go around in the streets running into every fatty and handing them a gym membership and a south beach diet bar.
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post #38 of 183
12/21/09 at 2:34am
^Then we just disagree. I see nothing wrong with anybody else's weight unless its extreme and life-threatening. I got my problems they got theirs.
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post #39 of 183
12/21/09 at 2:44am
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Originally Posted by Deluks917 View Post
^Then we just disagree. I see nothing wrong with anybody else's weight unless its extreme and life-threatening. I got my problems they got theirs.

Me neither, I'm just telling you my private thoughts. The only reason I've ever said something about a friend's weight was because they were complaining about it. Another time I told someone I cared about that they needed to get in shape. Other than that I don't publicly voice these opinions.
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post #40 of 183
12/21/09 at 2:46am
get a gastric bypass, a bit of lipo suction here and there and some chest/abs/bicep implants and you're set.
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post #41 of 183
12/21/09 at 3:49am
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Originally Posted by TintoTerra View Post
While I'm mostly being a jackass due to boredom, I also faced this dilemma myself and spent a year(!) just focusing on losing weight and getting healthy. Now I can wear whatever I want and it still looks pretty decent. No more massive beergut poking out of my outfits. It's slightly frustrating to see people in a situation like I was previously and doing nothing about it, so it is with great compassion that I say, 'get to the gym you fat fucker'.
It's always the formerly fat and out of shape who are the most aggressive and judgmental toward the overweight and start these threads. Those of us who have always been in good shape are usually not as obnoxious about it. Just something I've noticed online.
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post #42 of 183
12/21/09 at 5:42am
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It's always the formerly fat and out of shape who are the most aggressive and judgmental toward the overweight and start these threads.
Those of us who have always been in good shape are usually not as obnoxious about it. Just something I've noticed online.

Yeah, I couldn't care less how obese others are as long as they aren't my family members or loved ones (for obvious health reasons). I've never been remotely underweight; I've battled with being slightly underweight all my life and constantly eat 5-6 small meals a day just to maintain current weight. Some of my most insightful and intelligent colleagues and peers I've had were obviously overweight but it's sometimes more out of their control than you'd think (ie these are busy academics/professionals who don't have the time to hit the gym every day and night, and they pack on pounds easy)
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post #43 of 183
12/21/09 at 11:44am
Why are you skinny fucks so critical of fat people? Just so you know, I've never been big so I'm not particularly sensitive to their struggles. However, I just see it as another issue. Frankly, I think it's mostly genetics. However, some people certainly don't help the genetic deficiency by eating poorly.

Be glad that you have decent genetics and that moderate exercise combined with a decent diet keeps you thin. Hell, I'm sure some of you have never stepped into a gym and are probably thin. I was that way until just a couple of years ago. Hell, even today, I eat 2500-3000 calories a day, with a 4-5000 calorie day every now and then and haven't gained a pound in two years. I'm 35, by the way. In fact, I lost about 5 lbs because of weightlifting.

I know, and am thankful, that I don't have to do much. This thread is just one step above good looking people looking down on ugly people. Some of you sound like a bunch of middle school girls.
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post #44 of 183
12/21/09 at 12:00pm
Taking pride in your health and your body is all fine and good, to a point. But when you take it to the next step and start criticizing the bodies of others (of your own gender, anyway) you just sound like a teenage girl. Grow up and be a fucking man you little gossip queen.
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post #45 of 183
12/21/09 at 12:23pm
OP, if you had a buzz cut and decided to grow it out to your shoulders, would you let it all grow to that length like a neanderthal and then finally get it shaped or would you get it trimmed along the way?
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