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post #16 of 28
give it to her, if you take it you would be analy raped.
post #17 of 28
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Originally Posted by Crane's View Post
I remember ludes.....

Does a bear shit in the woods

If you mean 714 Rorer's or Lemons, I sure do. But those were spiritual pills. They only could have come from God. The Mandrax that followed them were garbage.

There is an urban legend that right before Ludes were banned ( under Carter ) some music personalities buried 1,000,000s of them in the snow somewhere in Colorado.

Sort of like "Quinn the Mighty Eskimo". I'm waiting!
post #18 of 28
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Originally Posted by rnoldh View Post
Does a bear shit in the woods

If you mean 714 Rorer's or Lemons, I sure do. But those were spiritual pills. They only could have come from God. The Mandrax that followed them were garbage.

There is an urban legend that right before Ludes were banned ( under Carter ) some music personalities buried 1,000,000s of them in the snow somewhere in Colorado.

Sort of like "Quinn the Mighty Eskimo". I'm waiting!

Yep I'm talking about Rorer 714s. Good stuff.
post #19 of 28
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Originally Posted by rnoldh View Post
Does a bear shit in the woods

If you mean 714 Rorer's or Lemons, I sure do. But those were spiritual pills. They only could have come from God. The Mandrax that followed them were garbage.

There is an urban legend that right before Ludes were banned ( under Carter ) some music personalities buried 1,000,000s of them in the snow somewhere in Colorado.

Sort of like "Quinn the Mighty Eskimo". I'm waiting!

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Originally Posted by Crane's View Post
Yep I'm talking about Rorer 714s. Good stuff.


Check this and note the "Godlike Productions " title!
I'd never heard of the site till I saw this thread, posted on it, and then I Googled, "Rorer 714s banned".

Here is the full page of search results.

Apparently, it seems you can still get "real 714s".

Tying all of this into the OP of Ambien Sex. I don't know about it. But 714 sex, well!!!!!

I'm sober 25 years+ but with some real Ludes and a few Hustler cover girls it sure would be tempting
post #20 of 28
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Originally Posted by rnoldh View Post

Check this and note the "Godlike Productions " title!
I'd never heard of the site till I saw this thread, posted on it, and then I Googled, "Rorer 714s banned".

Here is the full page of search results.

Apparently, it seems you can still get "real 714s".

Tying all of this into the OP of Ambien Sex. I don't know about it. But 714 sex, well!!!!!

I'm sober 25 years+ but with some real Ludes and a few Hustler cover girls it sure would be tempting

It's still a legal prescription medication sold in Switzerland, Germany (although last I heard, they were considering a ban) and elsewhere under the name of Toquilone. It's the same Rorer/Lemmon combo of methaqualone and diphenhydramine, only in halved amounts (I think each tablet is 150mg/25mg, Rorer/Lemmons were 300/50 and in a few cases 400/50).

From what I've heard it's very difficult to get a prescription for it, because of its recreational and abuse potential. But I've never had a better night's sleep in my life. Or a longer/more intense orgasm, but that's another story.
post #21 of 28
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Originally Posted by AThingForCashmere View Post
It's still a legal prescription medication sold in Switzerland, Germany (although last I heard, they were considering a ban) and elsewhere under the name of Toquilone. It's the same Rorer/Lemmon combo of methaqualone and diphenhydramine, only in halved amounts (I think each tablet is 150mg/25mg, Rorer/Lemmons were 300/50 and in a few cases 400/50).

From what I've heard it's very difficult to get a prescription for it, because of its recreational and abuse potential. But I've never had a better night's sleep in my life. Or a longer/more intense orgasm, but that's another story.

I didn't know it's still legal in parts of the world!

Hmn, I wonder if Lakewolf or Fritzl might proxy for me.

Next time Ronnie, Dennis, and a bunch of Hustler girls are in town, I just might ..............

Just Kidding!

Glutethimide (Doriden®) was introduced in 1954 and methaqualone ("Quaalude" Sopor®) in 1965 as safe barbiturate substitutes. Experience demonstrated, however; that their addiction liability and the severity of withdrawal symptoms were similar to those of barbiturates. By 1972, "luding out," taking methaqualone with wine, was a popular college pastime. Excessive use leads to tolerance, dependence, and withdrawal symptoms similar to those of barbiturates. In the United States, the marketing of methaqualone pharmaceutical products stopped in 1984, and methaqualone was transferred to Schedule I of the CSA. In 1991, glutethimide was transferred into Schedule II in response to an upsurge in the prevalence of diversion, abuse, and overdose deaths. Today, there is little medical use of glutethimide in the United States.
post #22 of 28
Like many drugs, Ambien affects some in strange ways and others like myself, just sleep. I have not tried it with ANY alcohol so maybe that is the catalyst for the strange stuff. Halcyon, THAT would be the one to get you in trouble. You could do loads of kinky, illegal, distatsteful things on that and you'd never know you had done any of it. I think Halcyon would lead you to do that those things that DO go against your normal values and mores.
post #23 of 28
Nobody actually takes Ambien recreationally unless they're really hard up. This 'high' is pretty lame, it's very hard to stay awake and you forget almost everything. I usually end up talking to my blanket then falling asleep.
post #24 of 28
my grandmother used to ambien shop on QVC. They would get all these packages showing up that she didnt remember ordering. She was old, but still very sharp, so I dont think she was being forgetful. My uncle was living with them at the time and said he used to see her sleep walking all the time. Pretty freaky shit.
post #25 of 28
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Originally Posted by dusty View Post
Nobody actually takes Ambien recreationally unless they're really hard up. This 'high' is pretty lame, it's very hard to stay awake and you forget almost everything. I usually end up talking to my blanket then falling asleep.

Are you channeling Conne?
post #26 of 28
Please tell me about these "Luders" -- and their pleaseant side effects when having consensual intercoursal relations
post #27 of 28
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Originally Posted by AThingForCashmere View Post
Super alcohol? Uh, no. Ambien is some of alcohol's negative qualities (not knowing where you are or what you're doing), amnesia etc, and only one of alcohol's positive qualities (it does help you sleep). I've never experienced any kind of euphoria, removal of inhibitions etc on it. The first time I made the mistake of taking two pills instead of one, I got up in the middle of the night and drank a half-bottle of vodka, straight. The scary part is, I rarely drink at all, and I have no memory whatsoever of doing it.

Police are routinely finding people who've 'sleep driven' into car wrecks. They don't even snap out of it after the wrecks, and police show up to find them walking, talking, able to respond to questions etc, but completely asleep. Just bizarre.

It's evil, evil stuff. Never take more than 10mg within an 8-hour period, or use it long-term.

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Originally Posted by Big Punisher View Post
Makes people kinky and they often can't remember WTF kind of degradation they went through the night before.

I'm a chronic insomniac. I've tried a lot of meds but ambien was the best- 2/3 to 3/4 of a 10mg tab.

THEN the generic zolpidem came out and gave me a lot of the side effects you guys are talking about...

1. MUNCHIES
2. Forgetfulness
3. I don't need any help for the decadent sex.

And of course if I want ambien I gotta pay 100 bucks a prescription.
post #28 of 28
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Originally Posted by rnoldh View Post
Glutethimide (Doriden®) was introduced in 1954 and methaqualone ("Quaalude" Sopor®) in 1965 as safe barbiturate substitutes. Experience demonstrated, however; that their addiction liability and the severity of withdrawal symptoms were similar to those of barbiturates. By 1972, "luding out," taking methaqualone with wine, was a popular college pastime. Excessive use leads to tolerance, dependence, and withdrawal symptoms similar to those of barbiturates. In the United States, the marketing of methaqualone pharmaceutical products stopped in 1984, and methaqualone was transferred to Schedule I of the CSA. In 1991, glutethimide was transferred into Schedule II in response to an upsurge in the prevalence of diversion, abuse, and overdose deaths. Today, there is little medical use of glutethimide in the United States.

Some of that is pure hogwash. We used to pop them like Tic-Tacs in college and the years after, for months on end, and when supplies inevitably ran out I had no withdrawal symptoms at all. I mean none. Tolerance however was an issue, and about once a month I'd stop taking them for a few days to allow my system to reset. It was never a problem, and I never had to increase my dosages as long as I took these periodic breaks.

What drove methaqualone to near extinction were idiots who mixed it with alcohol and wound up overdosing, or killing themselves in car wrecks and other accidents. It has the distinct quality of making you think you can drive just fine, when you really can't. The other "problem" is that it makes you feel really, REALLY good: extremely euphoric, social, uninhibited and horny as hell. Tactile sensations, including genital and orgasmic sensations are greatly enhanced, unlike alcohol which has the opposite effect when consumed in excess.

Substances on Schedule I are supposed to have no recognized medicinal uses, and to claim methaqualone qualifies for this category is beyond absurd. It's by far the best sleep aid and sedative ever discovered by medical science. It has none of Ambien's sleepwalking or amnesia side-effects, or at least I never experienced any of these side-effects with it. When taken with simple analgesics like aspirin or Tylenol it's very effective against pain, and has none of the constipation and impotence side-effects of opiate medications. But it was a casualty of anti-drug hysteria and abuse, and we've been paying the price for this ban ever since.
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