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post #211 of 240
I must give credit to the Cards pitching last night. It was incredible. If it wasnt for a few mistakes by us the game would have been much closer. I sure hope the Tigers learned there lesson about pitching to Pujols.
post #212 of 240
Im rooting for the Tigers but they were rusty. it's been like a week since they played a meaningful game. Hopefully the Gambler will bring more of his "bottled heat" to tonight's game and slice through that lame Cardinals lineup.
post #213 of 240
As a cardinals fan, I can't say I am displeased. That's not to gloat, just to say that the cards have been bridesmaids before with this group, and maybe they figured it out this year.

That or they woke a giant. It's only game 1 and the Tiger lefties have yet to go. Lefties are always bad news for the cards.

Win or lose the series, I still think you can't give enough credit to the Tigers players and organization for the season they've had.
post #214 of 240
Thread Starter 
The gunk on Rogers's hand.....the Stigmata!!!!!!!!!

On to St Louis! This is going to be an exciting Series. It was wonderful to see the warm reception that Trammell received from the fans. Rumor is that he will be on the Cubs coaching staff. That would be great for him and the Cubs.
post #215 of 240
WHat a game last night. I am sure this hand situation will be the talk of the series. The Cards couldn't hit him no matter what he was doing. It will be a great series.
post #216 of 240
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Originally Posted by mrpologuy
WHat a game last night. I am sure this hand situation will be the talk of the series. The Cards couldn't hit him no matter what he was doing. It will be a great series.


Umm, they need to do a steroid test on that guy. Now theyre saying The Gambler's been lifting like a maniac in recent months. that guy never threw that fast. Also, he shouldve been thrown out for that crap on his hand. If I were Cardinals nation I would rise up over this.
post #217 of 240
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ers/index.html So many bending/breaking the rules... One bit of mischief I really enjoyed was from Bobby Valentine(at the time managing the Mets) who, after being ejected, returned to the dugout with a fake 'stache.
post #218 of 240
I think I smell some sour grapes from the Cards fans. If it was such a big deal Larusa should have made more of a fuss over it.
post #219 of 240
Thread Starter 
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I think I smell some sour grapes from the Cards fans. If it was such a big deal Larusa should have made more of a fuss over it.

Smudgegate!

Well, the final word is that Kenny pitched even better after he wiped his hand. As LaRussa said in his press conference, "we were beat". Also, LaRussa said that pitchers "from the start of spring training" until the end of the world series apply stuff to their hands.

Of course the Fox broadcast team is completely neutral. Let's see...Tim McCarver was the final St L Cards guy to strike out in game seven of the '68 World Series. And Joe Buck, son of the famed Cards announcer.
post #220 of 240
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Originally Posted by mrpologuy
I think I smell some sour grapes from the Cards fans. If it was such a big deal Larusa should have made more of a fuss over it.


Im a Yankees fan and a baseball fan. Im just wondering if we mightn't have to put an asterik next to this pitcher's 23 shut out innings?

Larusa is way to arrogant and pompous to make the right decision if he ist sure that he would win it. He probably sensed he had a high probability of looking bad. The Cards, like the Metsies, had an opportunity to bust that game open in the 9th.
post #221 of 240
Maybe the Yankess fans are a little upset their 200 million dollar team couldn't get it done again. All the money in the world can't buy players with heart and team chemistry.
post #222 of 240
Maybe the reason LaRussa didn't go after this more is that he is no stranger to players breaking the rules. He did coach McGwire and Canseco in Oakland. The game has been played and is in the books. I bet Rogers hands will be clean if it goes to a game 6.
post #223 of 240
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Maybe the Yankess fans are a little upset their 200 million dollar team couldn't get it done again. All the money in the world can't buy players with heart and team chemistry.

Last I checked Detroit's payroll is pretty juicy, $83MM isnt exactly chump change. But enough with the cheap shots. The Yankees pretty much ARE baseball so I can absorb a snicker or two.

There is a rule in baseball and it looks like Kenny broke it by using pine tar to get a better grip on the ball during cold weather. It looks like he was cheating, plain and simple. That looked like pine tar on his hand. Whether LaRussa challenges it doesnt mean that thats proof it wasnt a big deal or that he wasnt cheating. Cheating is cheating.

Maybe if the Cheater err the Gambler were a Yankee youd defend him with less zeal?
post #224 of 240
If he did cheat he got lucky and got away with it. It still is pretty incredible to pitch how he has with a scuffed ball or not. The game is in the books and both teams now need to focus on game 3 tonight.
post #225 of 240
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Originally Posted by mrpologuy
If he did cheat he got lucky and got away with it. It still is pretty incredible to pitch how he has with a scuffed ball or not. The game is in the books and both teams now need to focus on game 3 tonight.


What's more is Ive never encountered a pitcher throw an average of 5mph faster as he ages. It can definitely happen in the odd game but this guy has gone from an average of 88mph to one of 93-95mph? I would ask for a substance test.

Additionally, how many times did he go for the brim of his hat? If you watched the entire game, maybe you noticed that he was obsessed with the brim. Unbelievable.

And why, if it wasnt an illegal substance did the ASK him to wash his hands? Dirt isnt illegal.

The game is in the books but the controversy will grow. I just read that they collected like 6 scuffed or scraped balls that he was using that night. He pitches game 6 so he's going to have to be squeaky clean. itll be very interesting if he gets bombed.


You were suggesting I and others had a non fact based motive for examining Rogers. Im not outraged or anything like that but I wanted to explain myself because that has never been my approach to sports.

GL tonight.
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