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post #16 of 24
Being in Europe for the past few months, I've noticed that suit makers cater local taste as opposed to producing a universal product. For instance: the Hugo Boss suits in Italy are double vented, with a slim waist, while in America they are formless, single or unvented. The same goes for Zegna as well. I haven't noticed any other brands, but I suspect more of the same. Shirts tend to be slimmer over here too. What gives? Anyone else notice this?
I've definitely noticed a difference in Hugo Boss's American and European products. (That said, my only HB suit is a blue linen deal from an Austrian thrift store.) However, I can't say the same about Zegna. Their cuts (and, unfortunately, prices) seem pretty constant across continental lines. My then-gf (current finace) bought me a jacket from their Soft line with the same boxy cut that one finds in the States. It even had a centre vent. That said, European stores tend to carry more of the higher-end Zegna stuff than American stores, which may account for your perception of difference. Peace, JG PS: How do you like the Reiter Sports?
post #17 of 24
Steve: I head up to LA at least once a month for varying reasons, so I'm definitely open to suggestions just about anywhere in that area. Thanks very much for the information thus far.
post #18 of 24
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PS: How do you like the Reiter Sports?
Joe, I love them. However, I feel they are pretty expensive for what they are. I found it interesting that Puma uses the same exact outer sole. The leather inner lining is extremely comfortable and luxurious though. The styling and suede are exceptional as well. I'd be happier if they were priced around 150, where they should be, but all in all it's a great product.
post #19 of 24
Matt: I forgot the N-M down there in Fashion Valley, or at Fashion Island in Newport Beach should also have Paul Smith. Gary's in the same mall in Newport is also a great store, but I don't specifically remember any fitted shirts. However, I can call and ask for you if you'd like. Once you get to the West side of LA there are tons of options. I can post them, and LA Guy can chime in (he turned me on to most of these places anyway), or if you've got something specific in mind, e-mail me. Are you going for the "in" Paul Smith, ETRO, colorful look, or something more classic you can wear with a tie?
post #20 of 24
Steve, I'd love to hear of places to shop in LA. The only places I know are Fred Segal; Saks, NM, Barney's on Wilshire; and the Rodeo Drive boutiques... Anything good on Melrose? Hollywood? West LA? Thanks
post #21 of 24
Matt and Renault: Tons. Below are cut and pasted from the Word version of my book, and will also be available on my web site as soon as I reconcile them with the final fact check I did for publication. Incidentally, several of the guys from the Forum here helped  with the fact check, and LA Guy helped quite a bit with the stores. G. B. Harb & Son Independent George Harb, Owner / Varouj Krikorian and Tom Curry, Sales 336 N. Camden Dr., Beverly Hills, CA 90210. (310) 274-8466. Spacious, pleasant store with quality merchandise. Friendly and helpful staff. Great place to shop. Accessories: Trafalgar braces, Bruno Magli and Remy leather outerwear Casual Wear: Robert Barakett, Scott Barber, Ike Behar, Bills Khakis, Dalmine, Gran Sasso, Paul & Shark, Robert Talbott, Ermenegildo Zegna Dress Shirts: Ike Behar, Robert Talbott Neckwear: Robert Talbott, Ermenegildo Zegna Shoes: Alden, Moreschi Tailored Clothing: Hickey Freeman, Samuelsohn, Vestimenta, Ermenegildo Zegna Sales: Semiannual Vestiti Independent Tony Lonzano, Owner 143 S. Beverly Dr., Beverly Hills, CA 90212. (310) 275-8668. Brand new location, choice inventory of top-notch merchandise. Excellent customer service. Accessories: Borsalino hats Casual Wear: Brunello Cuccinelli Dress Shirts: Barba, Luigi Borrelli (nice selection), Brioni, Neckwear: Brioni, Kiton Tailored Clothing: Sartoria Attolini, Kiton, Arnold Zimberg Sales: Semiannual Glenn Laiken A L A N D A L E S Independent Glenn Laiken, Owner / Stan Blunck, Mike Dubinski, Bobby Yosten, Sales 9715 Washington Blvd., Culver City, CA 90232. (310) 838-5100. Alandales specializes in providing total service to men, including excellent on-site tailoring and in-store hair styling. This establishment helps clients select clothing that fits their coloring and body type as well. The sales staff also assists customers in selecting clothing that allows them to make as many combinations as possible with items in their wardrobe. Most Alandales clothing is constructed of highly twisted yarns, creating multiseasonal, fluid fabrics that drape well and resist wrinkles. One of my very favorite stores in the U.S.; I highly recommend this store. Accessories: Bill Lavin hand-tied belts Casual Wear: Alberto jeans and pants, Axis, Tommy Bahama, Hugo Boss, Nat Nast, True Grit, Arnold Zimberg Dress Shirts: Glenn Laiken Alandales private label Neckwear: Glenn Laiken Alandales private label, Lee Allison, Altea, Villa Bolgheri, Hugo Boss, Robert Daskal, Kolte, Tino Cosma Shoes: Donald J. Pliner Tailored Clothing: Glenn Laiken Alandales private label, Hugo Boss Black Label, Vestimenta Sales: Semiannual, occasional promotions American Rag Compagnie Independent Mark Wertz, Owner 150 S. La Brea Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90036. (323) 935-3154. Hip, interesting shopping environment for the man looking for vintage and trendy clothing. A must-visit destination if you're interested in capturing the trendier vibe of L.A. style. Accessories: Large selection of vintage clothing Casual Wear: Comme Des Garcons, Diesel, Levi's, J. Lindeberg Shoes: Samsonite, Paul Smith Avedon Independent 8620 Melrose Ave. Los Angeles, CA 90069 (310) 659-9606 Spacious, attractive store. Cordial, attentive customer service. Accessories: Gimo leather outerwear Casual Wear: 120% Linen, Bagutta, ETRO, Moreno Martini Da Firenze Dress Shirts: Cerruti 1881, ETRO Neckwear: Tino Cosma Tailored Clothing: Cerruti 1881, Vestimenta Beverly Center 8500 Beverly Center, Los Angeles, CA 90048. Politix Independent Barre Gray, Store Manager (310) 659-1964. Cool, unusual items you won't find elsewhere. Primarily for the younger man. Accessories: Some vintage T-shirts Casual Wear: Diesel, Andrew Mackenzie, Paper, Denim & Cloth Traffic Independent Nadia Shapiro / Sara Dovan, Store Managers (310) 659-4313. Ultrahip boutique in prime location. MANY items epitomizing L.A. style you won't find anywhere else. If you're looking for the latest thing in the City of Angels, don't miss Traffic. Accessories: Shearling car coats; funky hats; good selection of leather outerwear Casual Wear: John Bartlett, Comme Des Garcons, CoSTUME NATIONAL, Dolce & Gabbana, Jean Paul Gaultier, Helmut Lang, Levi's, Andrew Mackenzie, Moschino, Paper, Denim & Cloth, Dirk Schonberger, Paul Smith, Romeo Gigli, Vivienne Westwood Scott Hill Independent Jeff Fox, Executive Vice President & Operating Partner 100 S. Robertson Blvd., Los Angeles, CA 90048. (310) 777-1190. Excellent establishment filled with first quality merchandise you won't find anywhere else. Scott Hill also designs and merchandises its own outstanding private label clothing. Inventory is well presented using some antique fixtures. Mr. Fox has very discriminating taste as a buyer, and is knowledgeable and helpful. Don't miss this store if you're in L.A.. Accessories: Tateossian and some antique cuff links; Oliver Peoples eyewear; La Matta leather outerwear; Allegri, Luciano Barbera, and Persol outerwear Casual Wear: 120% Linen, Avon Celli, Barba, Luciano Barbera, Cividini, Coast, Brunello Cuccinelli, Heritage, Kiton, Lorenzini, Mason's, Moreno Martini Da Firenze, Maria Sartini, Stone Island, Two Flowers Dress Shirts: Barba, Luigi Borrelli, Kiton, Lorenzini Neckwear: Luciano Barbera, Kiton Shoes: Gravati, Silvano Lattanzi, Sutor Mantellassi, Samsonite, Terra Plana Tailored Clothing: Luciano Barbera, Kiton (Also M2M), Incotex, Vestimenta (Also M2M) Sales: Semiannual Lisa Kline Men Independent Nicole Sargent, Manager 123 S. Robertson Blvd., #B, Los Angeles, CA 90048. (310) 385-7113. Eclectic, comfortable store for the younger man who prefers modern designs and brands.  Another stop on your itinerary if you're looking for the latest West Side L.A. fashions. Accessories: Cool, kitschy cuff links, Vintage Zippo lighters and T-shirts Casual Wear: Paper, Denim & Cloth, James Perse, Levi's, Oliver Smith, Paul Smith, Oliver Spencer, Theory Maxfield Independent Deirdre Wheaton, Manager 8825 Melrose Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90069. (310) 274-8800. Impressively decorated emporium resembles an art gallery in its unique presentation of merchandise. Excellent customer service. Many celebrities shop regularly at Maxfield's for unique, tasteful ensembles. A must-visit if in the Los Angeles area. Casual Wear: Comme Des Garcons, Helmut Lang, Martin Margiela, Yohji Yamamoto Neckwear: Giorgio Armani, Gucci Tailored Clothing: Giorgio Armani Black Label, Prada, Yohji Yamamoto Maxfield Bleu Outlet Store 151 N. Robertson Blvd., Los Angeles, CA 90048. (310) 275-7007 Maxfield's outlet store. Casual Wear: Comme Des Garcons, Helmut Lang, Martin Margiela, Yohji Yamamoto Neckwear: Giorgio Armani, Gucci Tailored Clothing: Giorgio Armani Black Label, Prada, Yohji Yamamoto On Beverly Blvd. for Men Independent 8601 Beverly Blvd., Los Angeles, CA 90048. (310) 652-5522. Attractive, impressive storefront. Many unique, quality items you won't find elsewhere in L.A. Casual Wear: Brunello Cuccinelli (GREAT selection), Moreno Martini Da Firenze Dress Shirts: Bagutta, Moreno Martini Da Firenze Neckwear: Dolce & Gabbana Tailored Clothing: Mabro, Oliver Sales: Semiannual Scott & Co. Independent Scott Hill 8710 Sunset Blvd., Los Angeles, CA 90069. (310) 659-5829. Attractive, tastefully decorated store with great assortment of quality merchandise. Accessories: Some cuff links; leather car-length coats Casual Wear: Giorgio Armani, Incotex, New England, Scott & Co., John Varvatos, Arnold Zimberg Dress Shirts: Giorgio Armani, Sartoria Attolini, Gianluca Isaia, Lorenzini, Truzzi Neckwear: Giorgio Armani, Gianluca Isaia, Nicky's of Milan Shoes: Borgioli, Certo, Sutor Mantellassi, John Varvatos Tailored Clothing: Giorgio Armani, Sartoria Attolini, Belvest, Gianluca Isaia, Calvin Klein, Incotex Sales: Semiannual The Grove 189 The Grove Dr., Los Angeles, CA 90036. Tommy Bahama Boutique (323) 930-2888. Nordstrom Department Store (323) 930-2230. Casual Wear: Robert Barakett, D & G, Riscatto Portofino, Ermenegildo Zegna Dress Shirts: Ike Behar, Robert Talbott, Ermenegildo Zegna Neckwear: Robert Talbott, XMI, Ermenegildo Zegna Tailored Clothing: Joseph Abboud, Giorgio Armani, Hugo Boss, Hickey Freeman, Ermenegildo Zegna, Zegna Soft, Pal Zileri John Varvatos Boutique 8800 Melrose Avenue, West Hollywood, CA 90069. (310) 859-2970. Carroll and Company is temporarily missing. They have updated traditional and some European clothing, and are located on a street parallel to Rodeo, a block or so East. I included the Nordstrom because it was one of the top 5 I visited in the U.S., and I found The Grove to be a cool destination shopping place. Enjoy, Gentlemen.
post #22 of 24
Great list Steve.  The only places I would add are Bloomingdale's (in the Beverly Center) and Wasteland (a vintage clothing store located at 7428 Melrose Avenue).  I know LA Guy doesn't care for Wasteland, and you won't either if the idea of wearing something that someone has previously worn repulses you, but I have found some nice items that were in pretty good condition there.
post #23 of 24
I also sort of like the Charizmatik store, which is on East Melrose - closer to the SilverLake district. I hestitate to recommend it if you are in a rush. There is very little else in the way of men's clothing stores around it. However, some of their tees and shirts are pretty cool, or at least were the last time I dropped by.
post #24 of 24
Thank you very much for the list. I'll definitely check those out.
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