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I no longer allow the MB dealership to wash my car. Not because of how they wash it, but because of the sticky gook they put on the tires.

What was his name?
post #107 of 155
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I'd go with the 335 all the way. I have a 530i right now and when I get rid of it I'm definitely going for a 335 coupe if I don't buy my Uncle's M3. Combined we've had about 10 BMW's in our family and never had a single issue with any of them.
I find that last bit seriously hard to believe. I've already had to have the fuel pump, a spark plug, an injector, and a turbo replaced on my 335. The seatbelt extenders arm also had to be repaired or replaced. There was some software issues as well. BMWs definitely have their fair share of issues. 10 cars with no issues sounds like bullshit, or else you've been extremely lucky. That said, I would still vote 335 over pretty much anything you could buy for the same or less money. It's just a fun car to drive and one of the best looking cars on the road.
post #108 of 155
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I find that last bit seriously hard to believe. I've already had to have the fuel pump, a spark plug, an injector, and a turbo replaced on my 335. The seatbelt extenders arm also had to be repaired or replaced. There was some software issues as well. BMWs definitely have their fair share of issues. 10 cars with no issues sounds like bullshit, or else you've been extremely lucky.
How old is the 335? Sounds like a lemon.
post #109 of 155
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How old is the 335? Sounds like a lemon.

they're all common issues. I ordered it September 2006.
post #110 of 155
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they're all common issues. I ordered it September 2006.

None of them are exactly "common" outside of the forums. The average 335 buyer has none of these issues.
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None of them are exactly "common" outside of the forums. The average 335 buyer has none of these issues.
Actually, I find the forums to be the biggest indicator of common repairs. Remember, for the most part non-enthusiasts don't go to forums are post. This is pretty much true with any auto.
post #112 of 155
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A 335 and a 328 are completely different cars. We are not talking about a car to drive, not own for the "sake of owning." There are too many things wrong with the G37 interior to list. The 3 series interior is much more impressive in its design, simplicity, and ergonomics. Oh wait, you haven't actually been in the 3 yet, and the interior is just one small part of the car. Right.
This is definately true, I had the chance to drive both the 328 and 335 this weekend. I found the 335 to be a pretty fun car, however I'm even more convinced he 328 is the car one gets for the sake of owning a Bimmer. Needless to say, I found the 328 to be rather boring in demeanor. The 335 I tested was an '07 with the sport package, I was far from sold on the Black on Black interior (especially with aluminum trim), however I also came across a pretty amazing looking Black coupe with saddle brown interior and wood trim....that interior was quite beautiful.
post #113 of 155
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I find that last bit seriously hard to believe. I've already had to have the fuel pump, a spark plug, an injector, and a turbo replaced on my 335. The seatbelt extenders arm also had to be repaired or replaced. There was some software issues as well. BMWs definitely have their fair share of issues. 10 cars with no issues sounds like bullshit, or else you've been extremely lucky.

That said, I would still vote 335 over pretty much anything you could buy for the same or less money. It's just a fun car to drive and one of the best looking cars on the road.

Mine has 60k on the odometer and the only problem I've had is a bad alternator (and a couple of pieces of interior trim which broke - both replaced under warranty).

BMW's are perfectly reliable cars. The first year for any model, however, is going to be plagued with issues, this is inevitable.
post #114 of 155
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None of them are exactly "common" outside of the forums. The average 335 buyer has none of these issues.

so BMW issues service bulletins and recalls for uncommon issues? Good to know.

Also, common =! average.
post #115 of 155
I've owned two Infinitis, two BMWs and an Audi over the last 15 years and so here are my two cents:

Infinitis are nice cars. They're fast, feature laden and fun to drive. They also maintain relatively good resale value. I personally like their exterior styling and the interior styling greatly improved even between the two Infinitis I had. Also, the suspension on the G35 is tight and corners extremely well, particularly on the larger rim size. They are also relatively inexpensive to maintain (as compared to Bimmers and Audis). Also, dealers are often willing to make a deal on the price (I've scored both of mine at crazy deals, the first one was a new demo, the second was simply new), and the price was the impetus for the purchase in both cases. Both the navigation system and keyless entry/ignition system are amongst the best in the business as well.

The issues I had with them were primarily of the fit and finish variety. Both cars had their fair share of squeaks and rattles. Also, the dealer experience was mediocre at best (but, as I stated earlier, you pay less; but still...). The exhaust note, while nice most of the time, can definitely become an annoying drone, especially on the highway. That same suspension stiffness mentioned earlier means that the ride is harsh and slightly unforgiving over uneven pavement. The material quality in the interior is decent (and improving), but not up to BMW or Audi standards, and shows marks easier.


My experience with Bimmers has shown them to be the best all-around vehicles I have ever owned. I have had a 750il and a 540i and I loved both of these cars. I would have bought another 5 if I didn't dislike the exterior styling of the current one so much. I had the 540, so it was very quick, sounded great and the suspension was easily the most balanced I've ever had on any car - stiffness and feel equal to that of the Infiniti, without the harshness. I test drove a 3-series last year, liked it, but thought it was too small for my needs. I never heard a single squeak or rattle in either of my Bimmers (something I value highly). Also, the materials used in the interior of the car are definitely higher grade than in the Infiniti. My 7 was my favourite car I've ever had, and my 5 was second, to give you an idea of how much I liked them.

The issues I've had with Bimmers is that the dealers are rarely willing to negotiate price (and tend to have an attitude along the lines of "I don't really care if you buy the car, as somebody else will" - which I guess is true, but isn't quite the luxury treatment my girlfriend gets at Lexus). The repair costs once these bad boys come off of warranty can be crippling - in fact, once you get beyond 100,000kms (60,000 miles) I would hesitate to keep them. Brake work is particularly expensive as BMW Service will not just replace pads - they MUST replace rotors too. I've also had a series of lights burn out (exterior and interior) in both cars and had to do radiators on both cars (once each got to be around 5 years old - again, not uncommon with Bimmers). Also, the balance of steering heaviness to lightness was a bit more weighted to heaviness (okay, it was entirely weighted towards heavy) on the 5 series and I wasn't completely a fan of that, particularly in parking lots and parallel parking. My 7 was perfectly heavy on the highway, but light as a feather in parking lots - not sure how BMW pulls that off...

Regarding Audi, I've only had the car a year, but I generally like it. I went with the 3.2 V6, which I'm regretting, but I like the Quattro (it means I can skip the snow tires). The handling isn't quite as tight as either the BMW or the Infiniti, but definitely a more supple ride and I love the exterior and interior style and quality.

In my experience, the comparable BMW is certainly a better, more polished car than the Infiniti - but it comes down to whether you want to pay materially more for that quality, and which exterior (and interior) styling you prefer.
post #116 of 155
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so BMW issues service bulletins and recalls for uncommon issues? Good to know. Also, common =! average.
I should have said: having ALL the "common" problems on one car is particularly unlucky. In most states having those in the first year would allow you to get a new car. Only problem I had on my 3 was the door trim adhesive issue. M3 no issues whatsoever. I had lug nuts snap off on my last Honda!
post #117 of 155
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I should have said: having ALL the "common" problems on one car is particularly unlucky. In most states having those in the first year would allow you to get a new car.

Only problem I had on my 3 was the door trim adhesive issue. M3 no issues whatsoever.

I had lug nuts snap off on my last Honda!

gotcha. mine was a very eary production car, so i guess the issues should have been expected. They did not happen in the first year. All issues have been resolved though, and my dealer experience is always pleasant ( I have friends who work there) so I didn't mind taking it in for service. I'd still buy the car over again, maybe not a first year model, but a 2010 or 2011 without hesitation.
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Edited by warlandsboy - 4/24/12 at 11:04am
post #119 of 155
335i all the way, but for the money you could probably get a used 911 or boxter, maybe even an old bentley if running costs are ignored
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335i all the way, but for the money you could probably get a used 911 or boxter, maybe even an old bentley if running costs are ignored

2 things that should never take place...

1. Saints winning the Superbowl
2. Someone cross-shopping a Bentley and a BMW 3 Series.
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