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post #76 of 81
I'm not sure I'd consider being in two places at once a problem. At least not if it enabled me to eliminate my daily commute.

I too have criticisms of the Bangle designs, but I find they have their merits.

You, on the other hand, seem to have a personal axe to grind. Did he really do that much violence to your aesthetic sense?
post #77 of 81
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Originally Posted by Nantucket Red
I'm not sure I'd consider being in two places at once a problem. At least not if it enabled me to eliminate my daily commute.

I too have criticisms of the Bangle designs, but I find they have their merits.

You, on the other hand, seem to have a personal axe to grind. Did he really do that much violence to your aesthetic sense?

Indeed they do, especially since I was until now, a life long BMW fan. When my friends were dreaming of Firebirds and Camaro's I was dreaming of 968's and M3's... where I live you see a BMW every 20 seconds, and the hideousness of the cars builds up rather quickly and I get quite saturated with them. Although, I think the word "˜violence' is a bit extreme, no?

I do like the front of the new 3-Series coupe (E92) (which incidentally is a throwback to the E46...), and think it's a lot better executed than the 3-Series sedan (E90). The 5er is passable, but only if they change those damn headlights. The interiors of the cars, save for the Z4 are totally different than generations past and are too complex to use, not designed for easy driver operation (iDrive anyone?) and not aesthetically pleasing (to me).

Which merits in particular do you find with the Bangle designs?

Jon.
post #78 of 81
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Originally Posted by imageWIS
Dude, seriously its horrible. The front of the car looks so bad that I can't even see Pontiac designing anything that horrible, and they designed the Aztec!

I think the front looks BETTER than any of the other BMW's of recent years. the headlights are finally returning to a normal-ish shape, the grille is tasteful it seems proportionate.

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And the rear is just a very bad version of an already bad idea: the bangle-butt. It literately looks like the trunk came from a completely different car and they merely slapped it on the back of this car, which incidentally has an almost 911-like rear end to it when you remove the top part of the trunk (no, seriously look at the side profile of the M6 and then picture the top part of the trunk removed and you see how it completely swoops down to the ground).

Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of the Bangle trunk spoiler, but if you took the trunk off and went with the 911 rear end, it would look out of proportion. that being said, at least this car isn't a 7 series.

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Don't even get me started on the interior, which is in a word: FUGLY. This car (the 6-Series / M6) is a complete slap in the face to the original 6-Series. Don't care how many times Bangle talks about "˜sexy lines', the car is ugly and will never be "˜sexy', by any stretch of the imagination.

In your opinion. I like it. And I hate apples. Just try not to be too embarrased when one of these things passes you when you think you are "driving fast".
post #79 of 81
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Originally Posted by Tokyo Slim

In your opinion. I like it. And I hate apples. Just try not to be too embarrased when one of these things passes you when you think you are "driving fast".

You are intertwining two very separate issues: design and engineering. I don't think that anyone thinks that BMW's are anything but amazingly well engineered. And of course a 5.0-liter V10 is going to be more powerful than my 2.0-liter Turbo 4.

Jon.
post #80 of 81
I remember admiring the 2002s back in the '70s, so I suppose I am also a life-long BMW fan. I consider my brother's '97 M3 aesthetically delightful. When they changed that design, it felt to me as if they fixed something that wasn't broke.

The Bangle designs have grown on me. I actually like the trunk design as a solution that adds trunk space and provides an aerodynamic benefit while eliminating the conspicuous spoiler, a feature I find tasteless. The first time I saw the 650 convertible, I stopped dead in my tracks. It was love at first sight.

Of course, the first time I saw the Bangle 7 series, I stopped dead in my tracks thinking less than charitable thoughts about the direction the brand was going in, not to mention the dubious taste and gullibility of the owner. Perhaps Bangle designs are an acquired taste, and no one's required to like them.
post #81 of 81
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Originally Posted by Nantucket Red
I remember admiring the 2002s back in the '70s, so I suppose I am also a life-long BMW fan. I consider my brother's '97 M3 aesthetically delightful. When they changed that design, it felt to me as if they fixed something that wasn't broke.

The Bangle designs have grown on me. I actually like the trunk design as a solution that adds trunk space and provides an aerodynamic benefit while eliminating the conspicuous spoiler, a feature I find tasteless. The first time I saw the 650 convertible, I stopped dead in my tracks. It was love at first sight.

Of course, the first time I saw the Bangle 7 series, I stopped dead in my tracks thinking less than charitable thoughts about the direction the brand was going in, not to mention the dubious taste and gullibility of the owner. Perhaps Bangle designs are an acquired taste, and no one's required to like them.

At the end it's a personal choice: if you like them, then go out and buy one. If you like the way it drives, but don't like the way the car looks AND can rationalize the drawbacks of the looks with the perfection of the engineering, you should buy one.

I however could not see the performance benefit (especially since my stock suspension is better than BMW's sports suspension) for the price asked coupled with the fact that I don't like the way the cars look.

Personally, I was devastated when I saw the new 3-Series. I had been pining to purchase a 325i / 325ci ever since the E46 came out...when I was actually to ready to buy a car, the E90 came out and I was sadly disappointed.

Jon.
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