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post #31 of 81
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Originally Posted by SGladwell
I wasn't aware that Dearborn was in the UK...

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Jon.
post #32 of 81
Bangle's car designs suck. I truly hate them. They are hideous. Thank goodness BMW can engineer well. One of my friends has the new M5 and constantly laughs about how hideous it is. Even owners think the damn things are hideous. It's a good thing some of them can drive well. But damn are they gross.
post #33 of 81
Modern cars like many contemporary designs have the ability to make themselves instant unclassics. The new Rolls Royce cars are like mini Hummers.
post #34 of 81
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Originally Posted by imageWIS
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Jon.

jaguar is owned by ford. the ford guys are calling the shots, so it's difficult to see the modern jags as english designs.

also, no jaguar aficionado would consider the x-type a 'true' jaguar.
post #35 of 81
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Originally Posted by zjpj83
Bangle's car designs suck. I truly hate them. They are hideous. Thank goodness BMW can engineer well. One of my friends has the new M5 and constantly laughs about how hideous it is. Even owners think the damn things are hideous. It's a good thing some of them can drive well. But damn are they gross.

i see nothing wrong with the 6 or 7 series other than the wheels.
post #36 of 81
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Originally Posted by matadorpoeta
also, no jaguar aficionado would consider the x-type a 'true' jaguar.

Would a Jaguar connoisseur consider any post '60s Jaguar model true?
post #37 of 81
My favorite BMW ever, the M1 I've seen a few on the road, and I have always been amazed. To me, they represent the pinnacle of BMW's engineering and design.
post #38 of 81
The new 335 looks awesome, from the pictures I've seen. My only problem with Bangle's designs is that they seem excessively bulky in the rear, which makes them look rather cheap, like Pontiacs (although the 7-series looks great). They just don't have as much soul, compared to the E36, which I love - even the M3, which was criticized earlier as being a bland design. On Bangles philosophy: objects in motion can inspire objects non-moving, and vice versa. Some architecture is considered to have motion to it - compare Copenhagen to Rome. The source of his inspiration isn't what is causing his designs to be un-satisfactory (basically, un-BMWy). The only design that I really don't like of his is the Z4. It's just too weird looking for me, it's got too big of a snout and the design is too blocky for such a sleek car. Though I think the Z3 is even grosser, so I guess I can't criticize it too much. I'm surprised at the previous comment about M-B being better-looking than BMW. M-B is certainly being a lot safer with their designs, but I think since the late 70s, they've just been getting worse and worse. BMW seems to be getting younger, M-B is getting older. I like to think of it this way - if I saw a Bangle-designed BMW (aside from the Z4), but it didn't have a BMW badge on it, would I think it was great looking? Most of the time, yes. That means, IMO, that he's doing a good job. Put the BMW badge on it, and all of the sudden it changes everything, because it has a culture and history and everything... But I digress. I much prefer Japanese.
post #39 of 81
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Originally Posted by VersaceMan
My favorite BMW ever, the M1 I've seen a few on the road, and I have always been amazed. To me, they represent the pinnacle of BMW's engineering and design.
They ALL look good (Even the less than balanced Z3): Jon.
post #40 of 81
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Originally Posted by zjpj83
Bangle's car designs suck. I truly hate them. They are hideous. Thank goodness BMW can engineer well. One of my friends has the new M5 and constantly laughs about how hideous it is. Even owners think the damn things are hideous. It's a good thing some of them can drive well. But damn are they gross.

I'm with ya.. for part of the way. The M5 is just so much fun that the minor flaws in appearance are easily forgiven. If only the regular 5 series looked half as good. Unfortunately, the car is terribly un-cool.... waaayyy too many buttons and gadgets and things.. and the SMG-II doesn't mate up well, IMO. Still, when my friend let me drive his, I certainly did not turn him down
post #41 of 81
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Originally Posted by matadorpoeta
i see nothing wrong with the 6 or 7 series other than the wheels.

The back window on the 6 series convertible is god awful. It makes the car look like a toy.
post #42 of 81
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Originally Posted by iammatt
The back window on the 6 series convertible is god awful. It makes the car look like a toy.

i don't like the convertible either, but the coupe is a good looking car.

i agree with brian that bmw still looks better than mercedes. mercedes' look like women's cars with the exception of the SL.
post #43 of 81
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Originally Posted by LabelKing
Would a Jaguar connoisseur consider any post '60s Jaguar model true?

i don't know. did something happen in the '70s? i mean, besides the fact that almost all '70s cars are ugly...
post #44 of 81
The CLS55 AMG is a pretty nice-looking M-B, as is the SL (especially in AMG trim). Also, is it just me or is "CLS" too phonetically close to Cialis? I wonder if someone in M-B was trying to comment on their demographic.

And no one has comments on Chris Bangle's clothes? Besides the jacket collar pulling away, he seems pulled together in what I think is a typically Milanese way (except for the red jacket, multi-colored tie thing which may fit another ethnicity better ...), and he even shows the right amount of cuff!

--Andre
post #45 of 81
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Originally Posted by Andre Yew
The CLS55 AMG is a pretty nice-looking M-B, as is the SL (especially in AMG trim). Also, is it just me or is "CLS" too phonetically close to Cialis? I wonder if someone in M-B was trying to comment on their demographic.
I think the CLS and 6 series coupes are a stunning cars. Feminine in design sure, but I'd still happily drive either if given the chance.

My only thinking with this whole "Bangle designs suck" thinking is that BMW aficiandos (and having driven them since I was 16 count myself as one) who chastise his designs fail to realize the cars his designs replaced weren't setting the world on fire. BMW has sold more cars in the past few years, and more 7 series for that matter, than at any other time in its history. Yes, part of this has to do with BMW re-positioning itself as less of a driver's car and more of a mass luxury vehicle. However, cars in BMW's price range are purchased based more on an emotional and social response than strictly as transport. That means people are reacting favourably to Bangle's designs.

I love the 3, 5 and 7 series of the 90's, in fact they're some of my favourite cars. However, they're basically similar shaped jelly beans in small, medium, and large sizes. The Z8 was a truly beautiful car but never meant for mass consumption. Whereas the Bangle inspired 3, 5 and 7 designs are. They may not be everyone's cup of tea, I still don't like the new 7 series, but I respect and admire a large corporation like BMW that has the balls to polarize their customer base.

A.
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