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post #1 of 20
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I have found myself, for better or worse, obsessed with Ben Sherman's line of clothing and accessories as of late. I have purchased two messenger bags, two two-button casual blazers (navy pinstripe and distressed brown canvas), several Carnaby and Mod fit shirts (my favourite of which makes me look like a vampire, go figure), a medium grey 5/8 length rain coat, and a pair of these Conquest trainers.

Do any of you share in my fixation and how well would you rate this label's quality and style?
post #2 of 20
Ben Sherman was highly regarded in the mid 60s for bringing American ivy style into UK with their classic buttondown shirts that were really colorful.

But since the 90s BS has really gone downhill but still clings to their reputation and heritage that made them well known. Nowadays their clothes are mostly "Am-Jack club gear" but if you look at their website it's been re-tooled with a fake "mod" look, as if they were still trying to stay in touch with their original core audience. This is a brand that is suffering from chronic schizophrenia, trying to pass of an image of it oldschool aesthetic in their adverts, but the actual product is nothing of the sort. Too bad it's all bullshit, but I guess you can't stay in business just catering to a mod/skinhead clientele.

That said, I still buy the occasional BS s/s buttondown, but only from England stockists as the UK shirts are made and cut differently from the ones you get in USA. They are made to closer 60s specs with the taller collars, proper buttondown collar, the stitching is different (better), and the plaids are much more interesting. They are a rarity tho, and not easily gotten. Most of the shirts on the BSUSA site are pretty horrifying. And now they've gotten into tailored wear/suits, selling what I can only imagine to be low quality garments at the $6-700 range (judging by the quality/fits of their blazers which I've seen/tried on)

The book "Ben Sherman: My Favorite Shirt" is an amazing photobook of classic BS, with tons of photos from the 60s onward of faces who wore them (Animals, Kinks, Byrds, Small Faces etc) and pics of their classic shirts throughout the years.

btw, I have that Conquest trainer and it's really nice. Great fit, comfortable and looks like it came out of Weller's closet.

They are opening a Ben Sherman store here in LA any week now and I am really curious what it will be like.
post #3 of 20
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Thank you for your comprehensive impression of BS. I agree that much of the line is stagnant at best but thankfully my anal tendencies have assured I only purchase things that I determine to be fairly high-quality relative to the price range and that match my personal style (which is difficult to describe save using the word eclectic). I also only purchase the UK items—you are right, the US versions are different. Have you ever visited the New York Store on Spring Street? I am curious as to its selection and have decided to make a trip up there in a few weeks. I will also be visiting Barney’s and Thomas Pink. Ahh, it has been too long.
post #4 of 20
Nope, didnt know there was a store in NYC...too bad because I would have gone to check it out last I was there. Being severely picky towards BS is definitely the right way to buy from them, as there is that small 1% of stock that is worthwhile, but it sounds like you know what yer doing.
post #5 of 20
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Originally Posted by Jofaile
I have found myself, for better or worse, obsessed with Ben Sherman’s line of clothing and accessories as of late. I have purchased two messenger bags, two two-button casual blazers (navy pinstripe and distressed brown canvas), several Carnaby and Mod fit shirts (my favourite of which makes me look like a vampire, go figure), a medium grey 5/8 length rain coat, and a pair of these Conquest trainers.

Do any of you share in my fixation and how well would you rate this label's quality and style?

Those Conquest trainers look excellent and that seems like a good price. Any word on the feel of the quality or materials? When did you get them and how well have they held up? I might invest in some myself...
post #6 of 20
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Originally Posted by PunctualAlex
Those Conquest trainers look excellent and that seems like a good price. Any word on the feel of the quality or materials? When did you get them and how well have they held up? I might invest in some myself...
I received them about two weeks ago and so far I am really enjoying them. During summer I usually wear sandals exclusively during the day but I needed a nice pair of neutral colour trainers for running around town at night (I already have black and brown/tan pairs from Unlisted and Puma). I saw these and knew they were exactly what I was looking for. The design is exceptional: the outer sole grips well, the leather is good quality (again, for the price) and they are extremely comfortable. The only downside is that they scuff easily because of their white finish. However, this can be remedied by cleaning them with a damp cloth every now and then. Overall, I am very satisfied.
post #7 of 20
A ha! I just purchased my Ben Sherman Conquest trainers, they should be at my door any day. I am excited, I even got a great deal ($35 on eBay, half price! can't beat that!)
post #8 of 20
It just so happens that I'm wearing Ben Sherman jeans today. The quality and fit is high.
http://whatareyouwearingtoday.blogspot.com/
post #9 of 20
Checked out the BS store in LA over the weekend, it's pretty much a mirror of the website, completely schizophrenic in their choice of decor (loads of mod photos everywhere), store bag (checkerboard with loads of 2 Tone era quotes all over it) and store music (a prolific amount of 2 Tone) but the clothes are mostly nothing a Face would wear. They sell re-badged John Loakes "Brighton" loafers for $300 (!!!), suits are about $700 (!!!!). But they did have a pair of PoW trousers I picked up that actually fit slim and looked good....plus the 25% off (storewide until monday) made the price reasonable. Another item of slight interest I saw was their skinny dry jean, which looked pretty good and called, appropriately "The Ramone"
post #10 of 20
I read somewhere that BS had something to do with skinhead-fashion.. care to elaborate? If this is true, I'll need to go burn the one BS shirt I have.
post #11 of 20
i think the quality of ben sherman is excellent...i prefer them to be my alternative to designer clothing...its like they have almost the same quality atamore affordable price...but i prefer their casual collection and trainers rather than their business pieces
post #12 of 20
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Originally Posted by kronik
I read somewhere that BS had something to do with skinhead-fashion.. care to elaborate? If this is true, I'll need to go burn the one BS shirt I have.
Hah.. not Nazi skinheads, just skinheads. I'll let Jason take over explaining this though.
post #13 of 20
I'll explain some of it before Jason. The term "skinhead" is not always related to racism. In America, there are generally only neo-Nazi skinheads, but in Europe, especially Britain, there are tons of different kinds. This may surprise you but there are actually anti-racism Skinheads, notably the SHARPs. The movement is somewhat related to the rude boys in Jamaica, but I don't know how much so. God I'm too tired to talk more. Goodnight chaps.
post #14 of 20
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Originally Posted by kronik
I read somewhere that BS had something to do with skinhead-fashion.. care to elaborate? If this is true, I'll need to go burn the one BS shirt I have.

well that's silly. If that were the case you should also throw Fred Perry poloshirts, Harrington jackets, Crombie overcoats, Levis 501 big E, Doc Martens, wingtip shoes and Bass Weejun/Loake loafers, 60s reggae and soul/motown records into that fire pile. Or better yet, send them to me!

Not to get into a long history lesson on skinheads, but if that's a concern of yours then it shouldnt be a concern. Let's just say that when mods evolved into skinheads around 1968, their sartorial style was greatly influenced by 1950s/60s ivy league "trad", which the Ben Sherman buttondown was trying to emulate as a British brand copying American ivy trad. When the skinhead 'revival' occured in the late 70s they were recruited by the British National Front (a racist organization) as footsoldiers which created the separate "neo-nazi skinhead" faction.

Geebus, just wear your one BS shirt, no one is gonna mistake you for a member of B&H.

88 Brothers!
post #15 of 20
You misunderstood - allow me to explain..

One day, I was looking for a nice cas s/s BS on eBay and I found a non-BS shirt that was by a .. racist skinhead that said that BS betrayed them and this, that and the other.. and he started his own design line to go back to "his roots" or some crap. Needless to say, I was somewhat taken aback - wasn't sure if BS supported that kind of thing or if they just adopted his clothing.

And yea, I'm a black guy, I'm not sure anyone would ever mistake me for a skinhead.
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