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Joe's Pro 

Places I haven't been: Nineth Street Espresso in Chelsea Market, Culture Espresso


I'm living in the East Village right now and have checked out a couple Ninth Street Espresso locations. Nice staff, nice spaces, but the coffee is pretty bad. 

post #3917 of 4104

Don't know what's in Chelsea area but Coffeeintouch app for New York is an excellent resource for locating shops.

 

Best espresso for me in NYC over  the last year has been at Box Kite. After that, Everyman on W Broadway, Abraco and Little Collins in mid town.

 

Hi Collar for aeropress or pourover but results vary by how old the beans are and barista 

 

Places will try on next trip, Voyager and Cafe Integral 

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I was just in NY last week, and Kaffe 1668 in Tribeca was my favorite espresso. Way up north Kuro Kama pulls Counter Culture Big Trouble, which I'm a big fan of. Followed by Joe's Pro.

 

Didn't make it out to BoxKite because their EV location closed :( but I agree they're really good. Everyman on Broadway was good this time but it seems really barista dependent (fwiw I've always had good shots when the asian woman is pulling); my friends and I have had bad experiences before. Abraco moved across the street to a much larger space, but their espresso of late doesn't have that darker chocolatey taste that it once had a year or two ago. 

 

I went to Voyager - really good futuristic space and sick setup: blacked out LM Strada and Mahlkonig. They weigh all their shots. But the Ethiopian macchiato I got was very average (usually I get more sweetness/fruitiness), so I probably won't go back. 

 

I just saw the NYT article about Cafe Integral. I think I went there years ago because I remember a shop inside a clothing store in Soho. Clearly it wasn't that memorable but hopefully they have good espresso now. 

post #3919 of 4104
I don't know if they changed much but all the ones I see mentioned are super acidic
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I know I'm a noob, so I'm semi-sorry (but not very) for potentially dumb questions but why do I rarely see Java single-origin coffees? In fact, at the hoity-toity places I've been, don't think I've seen any in blends.
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I just saw the NYT article about Cafe Integral. I think I went there years ago because I remember a shop inside a clothing store in Soho. Clearly it wasn't that memorable but hopefully they have good espresso now.  

While I was at Ipsento 606 they told me about Cafe Integral. They have a location in Chicago and NYC, haven't been to either. 

 

Too bad about Voyager, I had high hopes

 

Have been to Box Kite half a dozen times and the espresso was different every time. Last time was the best.  Very balanced and just plain delicious. I like ordering the 1X1, macchiato and  a shot of espresso.

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Oh thanks, I'll have to check out both Ipsento 606 and Cafe Integral in Chicago. What's your go to place in Chicago now? I've primarily been going to Bow Truss because they had some really good single origin alternate espressos, but always interested in new options. 

post #3923 of 4104
Thanks everyone for the suggestions. It sounds like there's a lot to try, probably more than there's time!
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I know I'm a noob, so I'm semi-sorry (but not very) for potentially dumb questions but why do I rarely see Java single-origin coffees? In fact, at the hoity-toity places I've been, don't think I've seen any in blends.

They are available, and I don't know why there aren't more --- perhaps some kind of weird bias for central Americans and Africans? The specialty importers like Royal and Coffee Shrub advocate for them, too.

Anyway, Barrington had an awesome Kintamani earlier this summer. I'm drinking a Sumatra from Kean right now (it's potentially good, but is a bit too close to the roast to be balanced), and our local roaster had an excellent Indonesian a couple of years ago from the Toarco farms. I'm also drinking the standard Aged Sumatra from Peet's and it's delicious as well. The Toarco and Kintamani would rank among the best coffees I've had with no apologies: too often people say that coffee from that region, due to the way it's processed, has a particular kind of taste, but the best ones are well-balanced with their regional character and delicious.

Blends are probably the easiest places to find them: the classic Mocha Java is a blend of Yemeni and Java coffee.
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Indonesian/Sumatrans/New Guinea are some of the most hit or miss coffees. I've had a few that are brilliant, but most of them just taste like dirt to me. Burned dirt, depending on the roast.


I really liked the Papua New Guinea Kunjin from Chromatic Coffee. They don't seem to be offering it anymore. This wasn't espresso though.
post #3925 of 4104
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Oh thanks, I'll have to check out both Ipsento 606 and Cafe Integral in Chicago. What's your go to place in Chicago now? I've primarily been going to Bow Truss because they had some really good single origin alternate espressos, but always interested in new options. 


No real favorite  as I don't have coffee at shops as much as I stop by to buy beans. Main two roasters I frequent are Gaslight and Ipsento, depending on what varietal of beans they have. Other times I order online.

Espresso at Gaslight is generally more acidic than I like. Haven't had a really good shot at Ipsento. They use a Slayer but don't utilize it well if at all.

Star Lounge used to be my go to. Have had excellent espresso here but they have slipped a lot over the past year or so. They do have great specialty coffee drinks. Dola D'oro (?), honey,cinnamon,splash of chocolate and habanero powder is really really good.

Best looking space for hanging out is Ipsento 606. 

Bow Truss is memorable for me as it was the absolute, in a class of it's own, WORST espresso I ever tasted.

Sawada on Green street can be good

 

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I really liked the Papua New Guinea Kunjin from Chromatic Coffee 

 Papua New Guinea from Commonwealth Roasters in Denver, one of my favorite coffees this year

post #3926 of 4104
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Originally Posted by edinatlanta View Post

I know I'm a noob, so I'm semi-sorry (but not very) for potentially dumb questions but why do I rarely see Java single-origin coffees? In fact, at the hoity-toity places I've been, don't think I've seen any in blends.



Not Java but had this a few times. So damn good. I went back just for this. They have like only three coffees that change when they run out
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No real favorite  as I don't have coffee at shops as much as I stop by to buy beans. Main two roasters I frequent are Gaslight and Ipsento, depending on what varietal of beans they have. Other times I order online.

Espresso at Gaslight is generally more acidic than I like. Haven't had a really good shot at Ipsento. They use a Slayer but don't utilize it well if at all.

Star Lounge used to be my go to. Have had excellent espresso here but they have slipped a lot over the past year or so. They do have great specialty coffee drinks. Dola D'oro (?), honey,cinnamon,splash of chocolate and habanero powder is really really good.

Best looking space for hanging out is Ipsento 606. 

Bow Truss is memorable for me as it was the absolute, in a class of it's own, WORST espresso I ever tasted.

Sawada on Green street can be good

 

 Papua New Guinea from Commonwealth Roasters in Denver, one of my favorite coffees this year


Speaking of Bow Truss http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20160709/ISSUE01/307099994/entrepreneur-and-bow-truss-owner-phil-tadros-profiled

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There's also http://chicago.eater.com/2016/8/24/12623340/bow-truss-phil-tadros-domestic-violence

I've had better experiences there than Despos, but my support is definitely waning

post #3929 of 4104
Thanks for all the info and answered questions, guys. I'm probably gonna ask more dumb ish over the next few months so fair warning smile.gif

With that said, I guess here's a good way to continue that: are there any decent coffee samplers around? I don't drink that much but I want to try so much so if I could buy say two cups worth of beans of like four different types that would be great.

As a way of saying thanks without really offering anything, here's a photo of the crema on my nespresso from this AM.

Also I apparently bought the last bottle of Stumptown's Red Gesha grand cru cold brew in the city of Atlanta. I think that'll be my Saturday coffee. Hopefully I'll be able to appreciate it to an adequate level.

post #3930 of 4104
also i kept meaning to ask if there were an article like this floating around somewhere and... there is. So I figured I'd share it.

http://poplab.stanford.edu/pdfs/Illy-ComplexityCoffee-sciam02.pdf
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