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post #3676 of 4116
Never heard of them. Will check them out. Kaladi coffee has been amazing.
post #3677 of 4116
Hey dudes.

I've been thinking of getting a manual grinder that's both reasonably portable (office, festivals, cabin, beach) and not too much of a pain in the nuts to actually grind coffee with, mostly for Aeropress brewing.

Any experience with this newfangled ROK grinder?


image via greenweez.co.uk

It seems like a pretty legitimate unit to me. I like that it appears easy to clean quickly and thoroughly to avoid spewing fines all over the place during transport, and that it's probably less annoying to crank than anything short of an HG One. Thoughts?
post #3678 of 4116
I suppose it depends on your definition of "reasonably portable"

I mean, my dad used to have a second 12-cup drip machine that he would travel to sailing races with because hotel machines rarely have sufficient capacity...technically that fits in the car and is thus portable.
post #3679 of 4116
^

Well, I have a very portable lightweight plastic-bodied grinder with unsupported ceramic burrs that's adequate for occasional backcountry use, but it takes ages to get beans through and the grind quality is mediocre.

This doesn't seem too bulky at all for the mainly-stationary use I'm planning:


source: espressounplugged

I figure it would be nice to have something that can not only provide good grind quality at a decent rate without the entire floor at work hearing it, but that can also be taken on things like mountain bike, ski and surf trips — where there's typically a car and tons of gear involved anyway. smile.gif

Just wondering what the fellow coffee folks think, and whether there are any good manual alternatives to consider.
Edited by Belligero - 3/2/16 at 9:58am
post #3680 of 4116
This is great if you don't need to grind more than around 17 grams at a time - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004YIBVZM/ref=s9_dcbhz_bw_g79_i4_sh
post #3681 of 4116
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Paging @patrickBOOTH and other darker roast fans who want to buy from smaller roasters. Have you ordered from Fundamental before? The interview is sort of interesting in the same way Coffee Contrarian is interesting.

http://www.funcoffeeco.com

https://beanbox.co/blog/fundamental-coffee-company-seattle/#sthash.UNCi42gG.dpbs

Awesome. Thanks for the links! Their Fundamentals page is mildly snarky in a funny way.

For portable grinders, the Porlex or Hario work well. The Porlex will even fit into the Aeropress for storage. It's about 140 turns of the crank for me on the Hario to grind 15 grams of beans: it's not that much work.
post #3682 of 4116
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Originally Posted by Knowledge is King View Post

Paging @patrickBOOTH and other darker roast fans who want to buy from smaller roasters. Have you ordered from Fundamental before? The interview is sort of interesting in the same way Coffee Contrarian is interesting.

http://www.funcoffeeco.com

https://beanbox.co/blog/fundamental-coffee-company-seattle/#sthash.UNCi42gG.dpbs

Awesome. Thanks for the links! Their Fundamentals page is mildly snarky in a funny way.

For portable grinders, the Porlex or Hario work well. The Porlex will even fit into the Aeropress for storage. It's about 140 turns of the crank for me on the Hario to grind 15 grams of beans: it's not that much work.

I just ordered the Kenya single origin to give Fundamental a try. Hopefully it shows a different profile than the savory tomato orange flavors that so many 3rd wave roasters seem to promote in their kenyan coffees.
post #3683 of 4116
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This is great if you don't need to grind more than around 17 grams at a time - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004YIBVZM/ref=s9_dcbhz_bw_g79_i4_sh

Thanks for the suggestion; that looks solid and I like the fat cartridge bearing on top. I've tried out hand mills from Porlex, Hario, Rhino and GSI via various coffee buddies, but I haven't come across one of those yet. 17g is my default for Aeropress, so the low capacity isn't a real problem. Unfortunately, I suspect that the small burrs might be a bit slow for frequent use.

I'd be interested in the Lido 2 or 3 (38 mm burr set icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif) due to speed and grind quality being more of a priority than compactness:


via coffeegeek


via prima-coffee

As something I'd use often, I don't mind going a bit deluxe for the sake of durability and ergonomics. The Lido and ROK do look legit, but maybe they're overkill for non-espresso use — it's possible that my experience with the fairly-terrible original GSI grinder has made me a bit too leery of small hand-crankers. Anyone tried one of these heavy-duty manual grinders?
post #3684 of 4116
The LIDO is not overkill for non-espresso use -- it was designed with coffee brewing in mind. I've had an original LIDO for 4 years and with daily use, it's still as good as ever. I've thought about getting the newest version but there really isnt anything wrong with my current one. A significant step up from the Porlex, which i had before that.
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The LIDO is not overkill for non-espresso use -- it was designed with coffee brewing in mind. I've had an original LIDO for 4 years and with daily use, it's still as good as ever. I've thought about getting the newest version but there really isnt anything wrong with my current one. A significant step up from the Porlex, which i had before that.
Thanks; that's exactly the type of feedback I was hoping to get! Still being satisfied after four years of daily use is very encouraging to hear. biggrin.gif

Knock offers the same 38 mm burr set in a quality hand mill, so that's another option to consider:




via home-barista

Although I like the horizontal axis of the ROK's crank, both of the big direct-drive manual grinders appear to do a quick job of ripping through a ~17 g dose at a medium grind, plus they're definitely more transport-friendly and quieter to boot. I suspect I'd be more than happy with any one of them. I'll report back once I get my choice —er— in hand.
post #3686 of 4116
I also have an original LIDO as my daily grinder. It would be good for travel provided you are not flying. I use the Zass I linked earlier for air travel because it fits inside the Aeropress for a very compact and hard to break combo.
post #3687 of 4116
If you're looking at bigger hand grinders, then you may as well toss the Comandante in as well:

http://www.comandantegrinder.com/

Does anyone follow Socratic Coffee on Instagram? He tested the Comandante recently, but the most surprising thing was the Breville powered grinder which had the sharpest peak for its grind size even compared to professional stuff. A Ditting came closest to it, I think.
post #3688 of 4116
Thanks for all the input, everyone.

Decision made: Lido 3, which seems ideal for what I'm looking for.

The Hausgrind/Feldgrind and Commandante options look great too, but availablity is pretty much nil. The L3 seems very solid and well-thought-out, I don't think anything handheld is going to beat its burly 48 mm burrs for grind quality, plus it just seems like the most fun toy to have. If it's as good as I'm expecting, it could end up being my main non-espresso grinder, and the Mazzer can stay dialed in for espresso full-time.

While I was at it, I ordered Rhinowares' mini mill that grinds directly into an Aeropress:


image credit: coffeehit

I checked out the standard version last month in London and it seemed decent, so I figured this version would make a nice little present for a brother of mine who does tons of travelling and also likes his coffee. It should get a good workout during our next backpacking weekend. The Zass one seemed very good too, but the company I bought the rest of the stuff from didn't carry it, and it would have been difficult to justify placing a separate international order for one.

To complete the grinder spree, I grabbed a 33M burr set for the Mini-E.


image credit: mazzer

The current ones are about due for replacement, so I thought I'd try out this common swap from the next-largest model that uses the same 64 mm carrier with a more powerful motor. There are a few reports of the more aggressive cut causing the Mini-E's 250 W motor to stall out ocassionally, but most people seem very happy with it and report no problems. I'll let you know how it goes.

Definitely looking forward to giving this stuff a spin. smile.gif
post #3689 of 4116

Don't drink coffee at all :blush:

post #3690 of 4116
Awesome! For your next feat, you can try to abstain from smugly butting in!
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