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post #2536 of 2854
Yep, that makes sense.
post #2537 of 2854
You've got to watch the baristas too. My local one sometimes won't tell me if a particular reserve is out, and will substitute some other one. The last one used the Malawi (delicious BTW) for the Maui Mokka, because I guess they sound the same. Also, there was that time they didn't know what continent Zambia was on ...
post #2538 of 2854
I have experienced the same substitutions, also one barista asked me if Sumatra was in Asia...
post #2539 of 2854
Well Sumatras Indonesian right? So Southeast Asia?
post #2540 of 2854
Yes.
post #2541 of 2854

I've never met a guy who slings coffee sorry, barista, that I didn't want to beat to death.

 

That could be me though.

 

lefty

post #2542 of 2854

Just wanted to report that coffee in Japan (Osaka, Kyoto so far) kind of sucks. Super overpriced and they usually source their beans fairly well but beans aren't fresh and there's no depth of flavor. On the other hand, vending machine iced coffee is hard to pass up every time I walk past.

post #2543 of 2854
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Originally Posted by t3hg0suazn View Post

Just wanted to report that coffee in Japan (Osaka, Kyoto so far) kind of sucks. Super overpriced and they usually source their beans fairly well but beans aren't fresh and there's no depth of flavor. On the other hand, vending machine iced coffee is hard to pass up every time I walk past.

Maybe you're going to the wrong ones. Many coffee shops in Japan source high quality beans, roast them in house, and hand pour. That is pretty standard for a decent coffee shop in Japan, nothing special. Kyoto is actually pretty famous for the coffee shops and there are even guide books just for the Kyoto shops which coffee lovers use. Can coffee is more like instant coffee with chemicals mixed in.

If you're still in town, try this place near Sanjo/Kawaramachi street crossing (variety of single origin and house blends, fresh roasted right in front of you, pick out bad beans by hand, hand pour using Kyoto water): http://tabelog.com/kyoto/A2602/A260202/26015997/
post #2544 of 2854
wow thanks -will go try it out. I went to Link in Osaka which is supposed to be good and their pourover technique was spot on but I felt there wasn't much depth of flavor
post #2545 of 2854
I think I will check out Box Kite at lunchtime today. If it's no good, I might have to give Despos a knuckle samich.
post #2546 of 2854
lower your expectations! Try the one & one. Macchiato and an espresso with a cookie. If it's pure crap, in your opinion, I'll take you there for dinner. They have a night time menu I want to try.
post #2547 of 2854
On second thought, it is too far of a walk for a lunchtime stroll. I don't eat lunch though, so no cookies for me during the day! Also, I never use milk, I am sweet and creamy enough!
post #2548 of 2854
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Originally Posted by t3hg0suazn View Post

wow thanks -will go try it out. I went to Link in Osaka which is supposed to be good and their pourover technique was spot on but I felt there wasn't much depth of flavor

I've been to a few places like that too (for some reason no depth of flavor, almost flat). Sometimes it's puzzling, because it seems like they are using great beans, fresh roasted, nice pour technique, etc., but the flavor ends up flat. Maybe it's the water temperature or something? There's a place I like in Kyoto called "Smart Coffee" (very popular), but for some reason their hot coffee is not that great. I always order the iced coffee when I go there and the flavor is totally different from hot.

Another thing is water in Japan is on the soft side, which makes the full bodied coffees taste more mild IMO. I think the water in the States gives the coffee more punch (like a young wine).
post #2549 of 2854
I'm going to try to go to ashishima tomorrow. Was going to go today but they open at 2... Did you have any other places you liked in Kyoto, that open in the mornings? I can't survive till afternoon to seek out coffee
post #2550 of 2854
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On second thought, it is too far of a walk for a lunchtime stroll. I don't eat lunch though, so no cookies for me during the day! Also, I never use milk, I am sweet and creamy enough!

Citibike bro
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