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post #676 of 739
Section 113(d) of the ACA:
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(d) Requirements.--
(1) In general.--An Exchange shall be a governmental agency
or nonprofit entity that is established by a State.


http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-111publ148/html/PLAW-111publ148.htm

Pretty clear an "Exchange" must be established by a "State."
post #677 of 739
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Section 113(d) of the ACA:
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-111publ148/html/PLAW-111publ148.htm

Pretty clear an "Exchange" must be established by a "State."


The United STATEs of America. That should count.
post #678 of 739
That's why you'll never be on the federal bench, pio. The only question now is Obama is going to request a full court panel or let it go straight to SCOTUS. I think they'll delay it going to SCOTUS: it gives them the ability to keep rolling it out. They will hope another year of rollout will get Roberts to just go "fuck it they've gone this far."
post #679 of 739
Yes. It was funny how on NPR this morning they said something they never do, which is that pretty much everybody who signed up for "private" insurance under Obamacare has the government paying much of their premiums.

Once you've got five or six million people dependent on welfare, you never get them off. Ever.
post #680 of 739
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

Yes. It was funny how on NPR this morning they said something they never do, which is that pretty much everybody who signed up for "private" insurance under Obamacare has the government paying much of their premiums.

Once you've got five or six million people dependent on welfare, you never get them off. Ever.


The train is going off the tracks. Let's keep pumping money into the boiler and hurry this process up.
post #681 of 739
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On October 5, 2013, just days after Obamacare’s exchanges officially—and disastrously—launched, Marilyn Tavenner, the head of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), sent an email to Julie Bataille, a spokesperson for CMS who frequently represented the administration in press calls dealing with Obamacare.

Tavenner’s email to Bataille was a forward of an email from Jeanne Lambrew, a key White House health policy adviser, about some of the issues that Obamacare’s newly launched exchange system was having processing health insurance applications.

But what’s most interesting about the email exchange isn’t the particular content of that discussion. It’s the first four words of Tavenner’s note to Bataille, her spokesperson and subordinate: "Please delete this email."

The email was released by the House Energy & Commerce Committee, which has requested documents related to the botched launch of Obamacare’s online health exchange last fall.

It raises a number of questions about the administration’s email retention policies, and its interest in keeping certain discussions out of the public eye: Was it common for senior officials to instruct employees to delete emails? What else might have been deleted? And how does this fit in with the agency’s recent apology, in a letter to the National Archives, that some of its communications may have been lost due to deletion as a result of "extremely high volume of emails"?

The gist of the defense from CMS is that there’s no need for a fuss because obviously the email was retained and made available to the House Committee as requested. But that’s hardly reassuring. If the practice was common, and other emails were deleted and are now irretrievable, then there’s no telling what’s missing, and what those looking into the administration’s botched management remain unable to see.

http://reason.com/blog/2014/08/20/top-federal-health-official-to-spokesper


Please delete this post.
Edited by Harold falcon - 8/20/14 at 11:06am
post #682 of 739
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Originally Posted by Harold falcon View Post

http://reason.com/blog/2014/08/20/top-federal-health-official-to-spokesper


Please delete this post.

Captured for the historians.
post #683 of 739
If you find yourself needing to write "delete this" then you shouldn't be writing it.
post #684 of 739
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Originally Posted by texas_jack View Post

If you find yourself needing to write "delete this" then you shouldn't be writing it.

And adding "delete this" just throws gasoline on the fire.
post #685 of 739

How is Obamacare treating y'all? Can't wait to see what happens when the executive gives amnesty to all those illegal aliens!

post #686 of 739
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Originally Posted by arnathor View Post

How is Obamacare treating y'all? Can't wait to see what happens when the executive gives amnesty to all those illegal aliens!

Unlike Canada you still get all the healthcare you need if you can pay for it.
post #687 of 739

Well, didn't America have the best medical system before the feds came in and started fucking around with it? Seems like Americans usually have it the best and for some reason let government come in and destroy it. 
Heck, I stay away from doctors and I do my very best to not use the system, my health is my responsibility and I'm sure Canada will become as bad as the UK is, where you can't get an operable surgery for 2 years that kills the person a few months later.

post #688 of 739
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Originally Posted by arnathor View Post

Well, didn't America have the best medical system before the feds came in and started fucking around with it? Seems like Americans usually have it the best and for some reason let government come in and destroy it. 

Heck, I stay away from doctors and I do my very best to not use the system, my health is my responsibility and I'm sure Canada will become as bad as the UK is, where you can't get an operable surgery for 2 years that kills the person a few months later.

Still has the best medical care. It's not like waving money doesn't work anymore.
post #689 of 739
Health insurance for suckers (working people) is much more expensive and much worse. Essentially we have the worst of what catastrophic health care plans (high deductibles) and HMOs (fees, copays, and high premiums) have to offer.

But that's a small price to pay for the joy I get . . . knowing that I am helping Democrats get more voters on their plantation.
post #690 of 739
I see Wal-mart is cutting healthcare insurance to tens of thousands of part time employees, raising contributions required from full time employees, and has downgraded its profit forecasts with rising cost of healthcare insurance part of the mix.

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