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post #391 of 739
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

But what if you come down with something serious and it's too late to go sign up for insurance?

Oh, yeah, it's called health "insurance" now.

What if I was hit by a bus and died instantly? All of that money paid on premiums would have been for naught and could have been better spent on women and whiskey.

The fact was even at thirty, I had been to the doctor all of two times in the previous 12 - 15 years-- all in my college years. Once with mono ( I was going to school full time and working two shifts (second and third shifts). I believe it was from a girl I stole from an acquaintance or her roommate, a girl I knew from primary school) and once due to strep throat in my first semester in the dorms (I think it would have been my sophomore year. It was nothing but linoleum, cinderblock walls and a military cot. The windows were drafty, so we drank to stay warm-- even when it was hot outside. I was also trying to love two women then too. Perhaps the pleasure wasn't worth the strain?).

I will say that the best most vivid hallucinations I ever had were from the fever I had from that bout of strep fever. It was right before Thanksgiving Break and I was going to go back home the next day. One of the girls wanted to go down to the creek before I left. I remember having crazy chills, so I sipped on my pint of Fighting Cock Bourbon and got closer to the fire. Just kept staring into the fire.... and then BAM they hit. The next day back home, I relented to my mother and called the doctor. A double dose penicillin shot and it was all over.

I now have good insurance, as I knew the odds against me grew more unfavorable with each passing year. Even still, I have not been to the doctor since the incidents mentioned above. Part of me feels it is a waste of money --- but the body isn't as young as it used to be. I do, however, know that I am very fortunate to be healthy of body (the parts of which I am conscious of).
post #392 of 739
It's like They're asking young people to buy an extended warranty from Best Buy on a PS4. It has a .04% failure rate this far. Extended warranties are for suckers.
post #393 of 739
I think it was on CNN today. 5.5 million people have had their health plan rates go up to date. From what I've read that's just the beginning of some really drastic rate increases. Could someone please tell me how in the fuck is any of this affordable? I thought rates weren't supposed to go up. I heard this great talk about how every American would have affordable health care. O'Rly?
post #394 of 739
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Originally Posted by Crane's View Post

. Could someone please tell me how in the fuck is any of this affordable?

Speak to someone living at the poverty level or even a bit above it.

The ACA was not written for people like you.

If someone is super wealthy ( a la Pelosi ) the bill makes them feel better about themselves for helping the poors.

And for the poors, "guvmint money" is always the right way to go.
post #395 of 739
It's still not affordable for the poorz. This was a bailout of the insurance industry and a way to push the country to a single payer system. It wasn't meant to succeed. I become more convinced of that everyday.
post #396 of 739
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Originally Posted by rnoldh View Post

Speak to someone living at the poverty level or even a bit above it.

The ACA was not written for people like you.

If someone is super wealthy ( a la Pelosi ) the bill makes them feel better about themselves for helping the poors.

And for the poors, "guvmint money" is always the right way to go.

Of course it wasn't written to benefit me or anyone else for that matter. It's just another Ponzi scheme and way the government continues it's fleecing of Americans. Oh and I'm getting pretty sick of feel good policy as well. It has no place in government.

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Originally Posted by harvey_birdman View Post

It's still not affordable for the poorz. This was a bailout of the insurance industry and a way to push the country to a single payer system. It wasn't meant to succeed. I become more convinced of that everyday.

Those of us who have any semblance of functional brain cells knew it wouldn't work. The golden rule of government meddling is whatever they get involved in will cost you more money and be less efficient or effective if it even works at all.
post #397 of 739
Nothing is affordable for the poor, hence the concept of being poor. If there were a way to insure everyone and cover preexisting conditions, without costs going up or decreasing access/quality, it would have be done a long time ago. Believing that Obamacare would benefit everyone is at odds with that simple concept. They knew that, of course, I just can't believe that so many voters didn't.
post #398 of 739
Plenty of "Young Invincibles" around here.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/12/03/administration-struggles-to-sign-up-young-invincibles-for-obamacare/

Instead of spending money for clothes, food or fun you should be enrolling in the ACA.

Especially if you voted for The One.

AAMOF:Is there any 19-34 year old here on SF that has bought an individual ACA policy?
post #399 of 739
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Originally Posted by harvey_birdman View Post

It's still not affordable for the poorz. This was a bailout of the insurance industry and a way to push the country to a single payer system. It wasn't meant to succeed. I become more convinced of that everyday.

I keep making that argument and keep being told that it is pure lunacy. The system was screwed from the start, knowing that once people had a new handout they would never voluntarily give it up.
post #400 of 739
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Originally Posted by zarathustra View Post

I keep making that argument and keep being told that it is pure lunacy. The system was screwed from the start, knowing that once people had a new handout they would never voluntarily give it up.

This is a handout that's going to end up being removed one way or the other. It's losing support big time because people are starting to realize it isn't anything like what was "promised".
post #401 of 739
You have the worst political gauge
post #402 of 739
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Originally Posted by Bhowie View Post

You have the worst political gauge

What is a good gauge, at least towards the ACA? Is it personal experience, mainstream media, social media or what?

I've noticed that whenever there is a "comments" section at the end of articles, then the comments are generally 90%+ against ACA.

And that is both in liberal and conservative websites. I guess low information voters, don't leave comments after articles.

Here's examples ( the comments section that is ) from an ABC News story. And no one can say that ABC News is not neutral or Liberal,

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/12/president-praises-obamacare-and-vows-were-not-going-back/
post #403 of 739
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Originally Posted by Bhowie View Post

You have the worst political gauge

That's too funny. My political gauge in this matter is based on reality and not some idealistic pile of vapid dog shit. Costs are skyrocketing. People are being dropped by providers like crazy. The coverage that'll be provided will most likely be sub standard along with more hidden fees than one can imagine. It's also entirely unsustainable. Healthcare coverage at mortgage payment levels? What fucking pea brained idiot is going to actually buy into all of this? Short answer is nobody. If the weasels in Washington want to hang onto this while the vast majority of voters are saying no how no way what exactly do you think they'll do? Stick with it and end up in the unemployment line? Don't think so. Obama, as usual, talks too much and doesn't know when it's time to just shut up. Who's we Mr. President? It's not me and the overwhelming majority of the American public that's for sure. It also looks like your constituents are trying to figure out how to remove themselves from this as well.

Nah, I have a pretty good political gauge. I call it my bullshit meter and it's pegged off the scale. It seems I'm far from alone on this one. If you think it's so great then you might want to change the battery in your gauge or turn it on. LOL!
post #404 of 739
Quote isn't working. The Obamacare handout will end when it is replaced with a single payer system, Hilarycare or whatever else those crazy guys in dc come us to give us universal healthcare. Don't see it ending any other way....
post #405 of 739
It'll end because the government can't compete with private sector solutions at the same or lower rates for a duplicate or comparable product. The dumb bastards ought to worry about a real problem like say the deficit and their out of control budget. Oh wait. The collective brain trust can't even build a functioning secure website with a realistic price tag. A billion dollar plus website. WTF.
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