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In need of direction on both a "Black Tie" and "White Tie" suite??

post #1 of 6
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I'm in need of a suit for a "white tie" affair in 45 days. I am also in need of an evening suite for a "black tie" affair in February.

My budget is rather limited at this point but I still wish to look reasonably nice. I'm in USA.

Are there any online stores that would someone can direct me to. If so, please point out the specific model as I can't inspect prior to purchasing. I'm not averse to purchasing a gently used suite.
"Black Tie" - Peak lapel, no vent, 1 button, grosgrain is preferred, light wool, pleated pants, size 46 reg, 39,40,41 pants. I would like to also have a square lapelled waistcoat.
"White Tie" - Peak lapel/tails, grosgrain if possible, light wool, would like to use the same pants and waistcoat from "Black Tie" save money.

***Don't laugh*** $600.00 for the both.. $400.00 for the "Black Tie" alone with waistcoat?

I know this will be tough to find but I thought it would be worth a shot. You guess have the inside scoop.

Any help would be appreciated.
post #2 of 6
You get what you pay for. Keeping that in mind, you could try Keezer's.


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post #3 of 6
Your best bet is vintage. I really wouldn't go full out on the white tie, as unless you're in the habit of attending balls frequently, you shan't be needing it very much. $600 is low. Considering you need 2 x shirts, 2 x collars, 2 x bow ties, 2 x jackets, 2 x waistcoats, studs, perhaps even a top hat and a pair of gloves. It's either going to be incredibly shoddy new, or impossible to find vintage in your size at short notice.
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Originally Posted by voxsartoria View Post
You get what you pay for. Keeping that in mind, you could try Keezer's.


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What would be a reasonable dollar amount without breaking the bank for just the "Black Tie" configuration - including the waistcoat? I know this is a loaded question but what the heck..

Keep in mind that I may want to also get the tail coat if possible with the same material to save on cost in the future...again.. if possible. I do like the grosgrain accents..

This is my virgin voyage!

I know they can get into the thousands but let's go.. best bang for the buck?
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Originally Posted by Ich_Dien View Post
Your best bet is vintage. I really wouldn't go full out on the white tie, as unless you're in the habit of attending balls frequently, you shan't be needing it very much.

$600 is low. Considering you need 2 x shirts, 2 x collars, 2 x bow ties, 2 x jackets, 2 x waistcoats, studs, perhaps even a top hat and a pair of gloves. It's either going to be incredibly shoddy new, or impossible to find vintage in your size at short notice.

My dollar amount is excluding the shirts, collars, ties. That will need to fund separately. I'm not sophisticated enough for a top had or gloves
The separate budget will be 2 shirts (1 wing-collar, no pleats, bib and removable collar for the "White Tie", 1 turn-down collar with pleats for the "Black Tie"). 1 black tie which can be used for the "White or Black Tie" (unless that is breaking the rules??).

If necessary the waist coat will be white as it may be difficult to find one in the same grosgrain material as the two jackets.
post #6 of 6
I will try to treat your question as if it is serious.

The least expensive acceptable RTW full evening dress offered in the US would be what Brooks Brothers offers. Click the link and you will see the approprirate accessories. So, about $2K.

I assume that one could do better if one is comfortable with used and buying from eBay. But, you should already be familiar with what makes for an acceptable ensemble if you attempt that, and you should also be prepared to pay for adjustment tailoring.

At the price points you are describe for things that are new, you are in the market for stuff that is sold to students, dancers, catering staff or so on.

The shirt and dress vest can be used in for both an SB dinner jacket and for evening dress. I rather doubt that you would find a dinner suit and evening dress RTW on the same material, although that is not a bad thing to consider for those ordering MTM or bespoke.

And then there is always the Jos. Bank route. $127/each for evening tails and SBPL dinner jacket, and $70 for trousers. Combine that with the dress shirt and vest from Brooks and you might have something workable.


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