Sobriety

Originally Posted by enjoiii

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So am I supposed to be impressed by you?

No, you ******* troll. I'm responding to the guy who implied there's no point in quitting drinking because you'll replace it with new addictions. Even if it were true, it's not necessarily a bad thing.

Originally Posted by db_ggmm

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a beautiful hipster girlfriend 7 years younger than myself who makes more money than I do.

Impossible. Hipsters don't make money.

And: I don't drink.

Sobriety.......... is a regrettable condition

It's a personal choice. If you enjoy drinking, why stop unless it's have truly negative effects on your life? There's a big difference between wanting a drink and needing an drink.

Originally Posted by Laffertron

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Who else on the forums doesn't drink? It could be for health, religious reasons, prior issues with alcohol, or maybe you just don't see the novelty anymore?

I'm a natural teetotaler, I guess. I didn't start drinking until I was in my mid-20s and I've never been drunk, as I don't particularly like alcohol. I only drink socially, and really only when it appears that my not having something is just driving someone in the group nuts and they're going to go on about it, and I can't use the "I'm driving" line, so I'll hold a glass to shut them up.

The likely cause of this attitude is that most people start with beer, which I can't stand. I hate the taste, the smell, and I don't understand the volume consumed. There's no beverage on earth I want to drink 12 of at one sitting, and yet most people think 12 beers (a freaking gallon) is no big deal, even normal. That's just weird.

Drinking a lot is fun in the same way that smoking is cool - the participants all seem to think so, but when you're observing them enjoying themselves (throwing up, stumbling around, or coughing thier lungs up), it's kind of tough to see the appeal.

vastly overrated.

it can be really good for some people and life saving for others.

Originally Posted by mr.loverman

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it can be really good for some people and life saving for others.

And for still others, absolutely pointless.

Too much enjoyment, socially and culturally that exists for me to ever consider complete sobriety. Even if I had Crohn's or something.

That said, I've definitely abused alcohol in the past when I was well below the legal drinking age. Luckily my body was well enough to handle it. Now I see no occasion, be it scoring a pay raise, winning the lottery, birthdays or my own bachelor party to ever justify drinking to the point of being "drunk".

Originally Posted by epb

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Drinking a lot is fun in the same way that smoking is cool - the participants all seem to think so, but when you're observing them enjoying themselves (throwing up, stumbling around, or coughing thier lungs up), it's kind of tough to see the appeal.

This is the same sort of angle I come from. To the people that say "why stop drinking, there's no point?" I would counter "Why drink if you can have an equally enjoyable time sober".

One of the reasons I drank when I was younger was that I didn't feel confident in social situations. This isn't really a problem for me now and I would prefer to socialise without have a fog surround my thoughts. I'm not going to criticise people who choose to drink, that's none of my business.

Those in AA who have stayed off the drink for so long - I respect your willpower and willingness to share it in the forum.

Originally Posted by Luddite

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Impossible. Hipsters don't make money.

Have you been to Williamsburg?

Originally Posted by Luddite

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And: I don't drink.

Sorry 'bout that.

I'm thinking about giving up the bottle. Kind of tired of the wild nights/rough mornings.

I love how people want to live in the extremes:

I need to lose weight so I'm not going to eat at all (vs. following a sensible diet with regular exercise)
I am never going to drink (vs. having 1 or 2 drinks socially)
I'm going to not pay attention all semester and then cram it all in at the last minute

Neither of these approaches are ever long lived because it is pretty ******* hard to take the all or nothing approach.

It's human nature, I guess. I'm one of those "personal liberty/consentual crimes" crackpots that think pretty much everything should be legal if you're a consenting adult and indulge responsibly (ie, no non-consenters get hurt via secondary impact), and the chief argument against that is the same as was used for prohibition - make something available and people will overindulge.

Originally Posted by shasta

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I love how people want to live in the extremes:

I want to live in the extreme of never eating dick or light bulbs. What's so different about making it dick, light bulbs, and booze? Don't you have a genital you won't eat?