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post #46 of 58
12/2/09 at 12:47pm
Aging does slow one down, as does (a healthy) marriage & kids. I really enjoyed wine - learning about it & drinking it. Couldn't imagine a nice meal w/o it. And beer certainly had it place of prominence as a quencher and w/ certain foods. Hard spirits were not so alluring, although I love a good bloody m., brandy/cognac, and some grappas. A nice scotch could also hit the spot.

And then I had to give up alcohol. , cold turkey. I was truly worried how my body would react. . Yes, the hankering is still there, but no DTs, etc. I'm past the age of killer hangovers, but it is nice waking up clearheaded & ready to go. I guess the biggest change is that after an hour or so at a party it's time to go home. Same w/ a meetup in a bar - I chat w/ friends, finish my sletzer/lime, and I'm ready to go. Another round? No thanks....
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post #47 of 58
12/2/09 at 9:30pm
The high-and-mighty attitude demonstrated by most anti-drinking people is rather annoying. Anyone who goes cold turkey on drinking is culturally malformed, why give it up altogether? That's just as extreme as alcoholism and suggests some sociological abnormality.
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post #48 of 58
12/2/09 at 9:39pm
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Aging does slow one down, as does (a healthy) marriage & kids. I really enjoyed wine - learning about it & drinking it. Couldn't imagine a nice meal w/o it. And beer certainly had it place of prominence as a quencher and w/ certain foods. Hard spirits were not so alluring, although I love a good bloody m., brandy/cognac, and some grappas. A nice scotch could also hit the spot.

And then I had to give up alcohol. , cold turkey. I was truly worried how my body would react. . Yes, the hankering is still there, but no DTs, etc. I'm past the age of killer hangovers, but it is nice waking up clearheaded & ready to go. I guess the biggest change is that after an hour or so at a party it's time to go home. Same w/ a meetup in a bar - I chat w/ friends, finish my sletzer/lime, and I'm ready to go. Another round? No thanks....

I feel your pain. Thankfully, I have not had to give it up. Some changes in diet and a reasonable decrease of intake was enough to bring my stray liver enzyme back into normal referencing.
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post #49 of 58
12/2/09 at 9:55pm
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The high-and-mighty attitude demonstrated by most anti-drinking people is rather annoying. Anyone who goes cold turkey on drinking is culturally malformed, why give it up altogether? That's just as extreme as alcoholism and suggests some sociological abnormality.

High-and-mighty attitudes are rather annoying, period. I enjoy a nice glass of wine (especially trying something new, or revisiting something particularly enjoyable) with dinner, and maybe a bit of port afterwards. I have a nice Otimo 10 year right now which I'll have a bit of tonight.

I used to plan and run parties on a semi-pro basis, which meant that I had to have a glass of something in my hand, but had to be fully functional the whole night. Never really got the appeal of getting sloppy drunk (which I saw a lot of people doing all the time.)
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post #50 of 58
12/2/09 at 10:03pm
I haven't been hammered in as long as I can remember but I do have 2 drinks everynight, religiously, unless I don't have something I want to drink on hand (never happens though) or if I am on 24 hours call. Pouring a drink for me signals the end of the day and a shift to relaxation. Sometimes I think of drinking less but since it creates no problems for me, I never really follow through on it. Every 5th week I am on call and don't drink for the week which has never been a problem for me as I dont even think about it.

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post #51 of 58
12/2/09 at 10:07pm
Sobriety is for the weak. I find serenity in the perfect storm that is equal parts caffeine and alcohol.
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post #52 of 58
12/2/09 at 10:08pm
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I'm thinking about giving up the bottle. Kind of tired of the wild nights/rough mornings.

Do be sure to let us know how this goes.

You are in college, no need to "give up the bottle" unless you see real impairment in your day to day life or sxm of dependency. This whole thread has a black and white theme to it as if moderation doesnt exist. I see many a user/abuser in treatment and always give them the option of moderation, most of whom decide on their own to abstain 100% down the road. AA works for some, but not most.

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post #53 of 58
12/2/09 at 10:17pm
I discovered quite some time ago that it's the process of getting drunk I enjoy. The actual being drunk part I could take or leave. When I go out with friends it's not uncommon for the night to finish with a pretty strong buzz, but that's not the best part. The best part is the time between sober and drunk.
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post #54 of 58
12/2/09 at 10:44pm
It is fairly obvious from the posts here that an awful lot of folks don't know what an addiction is, and how horribly it can mess up a life.
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post #55 of 58
12/3/09 at 1:23am
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It is fairly obvious from the posts here that an awful lot of folks don't know what an addiction is, and how horribly it can mess up a life.

Do inform us professor

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post #56 of 58
12/3/09 at 1:16pm
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Originally Posted by BareSolid View Post
The high-and-mighty attitude demonstrated by most anti-drinking people is rather annoying. Anyone who goes cold turkey on drinking is culturally malformed, why give it up altogether? That's just as extreme as alcoholism and suggests some sociological abnormality.

I don't know if this was directed toward me, but there are any number of medical reasons to give up drinking that run the full gamit of the healthspectrum, from weight loss to a life-or-death situation. If you fall in the 'red zone' it is really a no-brainer. There's nothing culturally malformed or sociologically abnormal about wanting to provide for your family and see your kids grow up.
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post #57 of 58
12/3/09 at 1:40pm
TBH, I'm pretty amused to see anyone from the UK lecturing others on what is 'culturally malformed' or a 'sociological abnormality'.
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post #58 of 58
12/3/09 at 5:49pm
One of the things that struck me most was in a Sociology class I had back in college and we had a panel discussion with some people who suffered from addictions. One guy from AA talked about being unable to comprehend how some people would have just one or two drinks. He said every drink he had made him feel better than the last, so he couldn't stop drinking until he was physically incapable of holding a glass. It's that condition that makes it a killer for some people. There is no middle ground for them. For other people, like myself, I'm not going to feel any better when I have a 4th drink. And a 5th drink is going to make me feel a lot worse. Unwinding with a single glass of scotch after work, or having a glass or two of wine with dinner is as far as it goes. Sure, I can drink till I get blitzed, but I have to choose to do so. For someone suffering from alcoholism, the disease doesn't let them make that choice.
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