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post #46 of 78
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Originally Posted by jamesbond
I use organic ginsing shampoo from AubreyOrganics. Im no tree hugger or anything like that but i once read an article about all the nasty cancer causing chemicals that are in shampoo which your putting on your head. I switched to organic and havent gone back since.

I think this is supposed to be a good brand too, I vaguely remember hearing about it. It maybe even got more favorable reviews than the Jason's that I use, but I'm sure it costs more.
post #47 of 78
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Originally Posted by jamesbond
i once read an article about all the nasty cancer causing chemicals that are in shampoo which your putting on your head.

Detergents in shampoo being a carcinogen was an urban myth that got debunked. It is still considered a irritant to your skin though.
post #48 of 78
I have thick, textured black hair that gets wavy when long, but i wear it short. I usually use some Fibre or Wax in my hair.

Trying to decide between Kiehl's or Bumble & Bumble (Creme de Coco)

Also which Kiehl's shampoos and conditioners are you guys using?
post #49 of 78
I've been using Rene Furterer for years and always visit a trichologist when I visit their Institute at Place de la Madeleine in Paris. I use the Naturia for daily shampoo. In addition, I use their Complex 5 scalp treatmet once a week and use the Curbicia Shampoo for my twice weekly scalp treatment shampoo. I always follow with the Karite Hair conditioner after the scalp treatment and always follow with their finishing rinse after the Naturia daily shampoo. It's a great, great product. http://www.renefurterer.com/common/0...l?vid=15228417
post #50 of 78
Does the kind of shampoo really matter, as long as it's no less than Head and Shoulders (which is what I use)? Spending money on a good conditioner is where it's at. Shampoo should be basic and not leave any buildup. Buying stuff with tons of additives defeats the purpose. The final feel and look of your hair is more dependent on the conditioner you use. I also use Nizoral about once a week for that deep cleansing.
post #51 of 78
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Originally Posted by JoeWoah View Post
Does the kind of shampoo really matter, as long as it's no less than Head and Shoulders (which is what I use)? Spending money on a good conditioner is where it's at.

Shampoo should be basic and not leave any buildup. Buying stuff with tons of additives defeats the purpose. The final feel and look of your hair is more dependent on the conditioner you use.

I also use Nizoral about once a week for that deep cleansing.

Yes, shampoo matters. Shampoo shouldn't be TOO strong or it will wash away the scalps natural oils or so weak that it doesn't clean out dirt and buildup. Also, a shampoo with a high pH will leave the hair's cuticles open and your hair will be / look dry and damaged.

Head and Shoulders has a very high pH and leaves the hair dry. A more balanced shampoo would probably make your hair look and feel better.
post #52 of 78
hows redken? for thick hair
post #53 of 78
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Originally Posted by Tck13 View Post
Yes, shampoo matters. Shampoo shouldn't be TOO strong or it will wash away the scalps natural oils or so weak that it doesn't clean out dirt and buildup. Also, a shampoo with a high pH will leave the hair's cuticles open and your hair will be / look dry and damaged.

Head and Shoulders has a very high pH and leaves the hair dry. A more balanced shampoo would probably make your hair look and feel better.

I don't use the 2-in-1, I use the Deep Hydrating Shampoo and have had good results. I've tried more expensive moisturizing shampoos in the past, and the overall look/feeling wasn't big enough to justify the cost.

I've heard about caffeinated shampoo's and conditioners being the new "it" thing. Anyone try that?
post #54 of 78
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Originally Posted by JoeWoah View Post
I don't use the 2-in-1, I use the Deep Hydrating Shampoo and have had good results. I've tried more expensive moisturizing shampoos in the past, and the overall look/feeling wasn't big enough to justify the cost.

I've heard about caffeinated shampoo's and conditioners being the new "it" thing. Anyone try that?

You lost me. I wasn't saying anything about "2 in 1" products (which REALLY don't work).

Any product by Head and Shoulders will be more alkaline and drying than a shampoo with more quality ingredients and a lower pH. I haven't tested all of them but I'd prett y much guarantee it.

You might think it works well but there are much better shampoos if you want them. You can test them (not that anyone would ever do this but...) by taking a pH strand and putting it in a bottle of Head and Shoulders. The high alkalinity you see in the pH strip is what's causing the cuticles of your hair to be open and letting the moisture out. Also, if you have a couple strands of hair and "pull" on them in the opposite direction, you'll feel how raised the cuticles are (it'll feel very rough) and that's a good sign that you would need a more acid based shampoo.

Also, that's why you should get a moisturising conditioner with a low pH. It will deposit moisture and seal the cuticles to prevent the moisture from escaping.

It may cost more to get a better shampoo but you'll use less and it'll be better for your hair.
post #55 of 78
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Originally Posted by Tck13 View Post
You lost me. I wasn't saying anything about "2 in 1" products (which REALLY don't work).

I was just clarifying.

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Any product by Head and Shoulders will be more alkaline and drying than a shampoo with more quality ingredients and a lower pH. I haven't tested all of them but I'd prett y much guarantee it.

You might think it works well but there are much better shampoos if you want them. You can test them (not that anyone would ever do this but...) by taking a pH strand and putting it in a bottle of Head and Shoulders. The high alkalinity you see in the pH strip is what's causing the cuticles of your hair to be open and letting the moisture out. Also, if you have a couple strands of hair and "pull" on them in the opposite direction, you'll feel how raised the cuticles are (it'll feel very rough) and that's a good sign that you would need a more acid based shampoo.

Also, that's why you should get a moisturising conditioner with a low pH. It will deposit moisture and seal the cuticles to prevent the moisture from escaping.

It may cost more to get a better shampoo but you'll use less and it'll be better for your hair.

I'll look over this thread closer and see if I can find something that sounds good to try.

Any suggestions for something moisturizing and volumizing (but not that "frizzy" version of volume)?
post #56 of 78
people with thick/coarse/slight wavy hair (not wavy, but not bone straight)

i've tried everything from drugstore to high dollar. i've tried everything from high dollar to drugstore.

bumble and bumble - good stuff, waaaaay overpriced. seriously, $20 for a shampoo, well i did it once, but i don't think i'll do it again

aussie - drugstore to the rescue! the moisturizing shampoo is great and so is the 3 minute miracle.

pantene - almost all of the lines are crap, except for the clarifying shampoo

suave - the clarifying shampoo is a best kept secret

redken - mid priced and works really well. i've used the all soft and smooth down lines and they all did just as well as the bumble and bumble stuff.

phyto - once again redken worked just as well

neutrogena antiresidue shampoo - this stuff is like industrial strength clarifying. if i've used an old school pomade or have used a lot of product in general, i'll use this stuff a bit diluted. it really gets you squeeky clean, to the point its almost too clean, but use a deep conditioner to bring it back to life

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here are some tips to get the most out of your shampoo

1. use a clarifying shampoo once every a week or two to degunk - moisturizing/smoothing shampoos can leave buildup. think of clarifying as toner for your hair.

2. rotate different shampoos every month or so or whenever you feel like you current one isn't working.

3. i'm not a huge fan of 'for men' lines - they are either just relabeled clarifying shampoos with a masculine scent or for thinning hair. i'm not thinning and clarifying shampoos dry out my hair and make it unmanageable.
post #57 of 78
Ok people. it is time for an education in Shampoo. First of all, there is no shampoo alone that will grow your hair. However, there have been studies showing that Ketoconazole (the active ingredient in Nizoral by Johnson and Johnson) has shown that it can help grow hair because of its antifungal qualities. Nizoral is a dandruff shampoo. Also Nioxin is ok, but also a commerical shampoo. Both of these shampoos have Sulfates in them. Namely Sodium laureth sulfate. It is a cleansing and foaming agent that is in most shampoos and almost all commercial shampoo. it is a cheap ingredient that used to be used to clean engine parts. Thats why your hairdresser tells you not to use shampoo everyday, that crap is bad for your hair!!!! I personally use a shampoo called Regenepure. I use their Regenepure NT which is a nourishing reatment with many natural conditioners in it and I use their Regenepure DR which has the Ketoconazole thats in Nizoral. Regenepure does not have any sulfates. In fact, all of their ingredients are listed on their website at http://www.regenepure.com The stuff is awesome.
it is not cheap-20-25 bucks a bottle. But I'll bet ya anything that if a large company put all of the same ingredients in a bottle they would have to charge 5X as much. Thats why Regenepure stands alone. I really think its the best of the best. Go see for yourself. Yeah, I do know what I am talking about. -Ben
post #58 of 78
I really like this bamboo shampoo by Leonor Greyl that my stylist uses. It's $35, but you don't use a conditioner with it as it's a "conditioning shampoo", but it's not a cheesy 2-in-1 product like Pert. Plus it's by some French brand that peasants don't know about. http://www.leonorgreyl-usa.com/produ...ich_product=13 Before I got onto this I used aveda mens pureformance shampoo and conditioner, and before that various other aveda products. Bumble bumble is meh. Redken mens sucks.
post #59 of 78
Currently using redken allsoft is it okay to alternate between lines(redken smooth down) rather than brands?
post #60 of 78
Aubrey Organics is alright, though I have noticed some ingredients in a few products that were questionable.

I'd recommend Hugo Naturals shampoo. All of the products I've looked through have a very good ingredient listing with only natural sources/oils. It's a good brand and any product they have should be ok. You just might want to do a scan for any oils that may be phytoestrogenic, if that's something you look out for.

Using these types of products doesn't make you a treehugger as someone had mentioned, though I do advocate the fight against deforestation. Many chemicals in consumer products can be harmful and you wouldn't want to put them on your skin, especially if it is able to be absorbed and ends up in your bloodstream.

Personal care products have little regulation and it is up to the consumer to be knowledgeable in order to make the right choice in products to lower the risk of health issues.
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