





You clearly don't know anything about Unbranded or Naked and Famous. N&F uses the best Japanese fabrics in the world. They have collaborated with Big John, Momotaro, Oki, the list goes on and on. N&F uses the EXACT same Japanese Selvedge for Unbranded that they use in their N&F jeans, which are the same EXACT fabrics you see $300-400 Jap repro brands using. SHOCKING RIGHT?
The denim will last years, the cuts are nice and and the fades are great. WHAT MORE do you want? Do you think it is difficult to "construct" a pair of jeans? You feed the denim through the rails and machines do everything else. LOL Japanese housewives work at the factories that make your precious $400 jeans. I've seen the workshops in Japan and they are nothing special. That 300% premium you pay is for all that HYPE.
Some people are willing to get 90% of the same quality for 25% of the price. That's how no-name raw jeans work. If you don't like it, THEN DON'T WEAR IT. I own a clothing store and have stocked almost every premium raw selvedge denim brand you can think of in the last 10 years and have sold hundreds of raw jeans. I've seen plenty of elitist SOBs and poseurs come and go. The ones who spend $400 on jeans go back to wearing crap after a few months. Real denim enthusiasts wear labels like Levis and Unbranded and don't give a fuck what people think about them. That's what raw denim is all about.
Plenty of people will pay $400 for Diesel jeans but will not pay $200 for raw jeans. Premium wash labs require a lot of labor to make good jeans. Raw jeans take literally 15 minutes to cut and sew and construct by any decent atelier. To most consumers, the jeans look too minimalistic to justify spending that much money on. If you want to waste $400 on jeans of slightly higher quality so you can feed the nose-candy habits of elitist denim shop owners be my guest but don't put people down who are trying to get into raw denim because they don't want to spend $400 to achieve great fades.

Just wanted to put in a nod for the chinos. I got the 33 and 34 skinny chinos shipped to my house (from UO). Fabric is heavier and more substantial than traditional chinos, and they have a beautiful, deep navy color that's hard to find. I was super into them, except for the problem that they simply would not fit. It was a spectacle getting them on and off, and they were noticeably tight in the thigh. I'm not sure if I could/should have stayed with the 34s and hope that they stretched, but I"m not entirely sure how much chino stretch you get (I mean, they aren't denim), so I opted to return them. If they fit well they'd be real keepers, though. I think I'm going to get the 'slim/straights' which seem to have a slightly wider leg, and I'll report back with any additional findings.
Sounds like you're right on the money with the slim straights, possibly even go up an inch if it's that bad. The chino's won't really stretch, and since they are garment dyed you don't have to worry about fading.
Also could you two idoits take your pointless fighting to PM's already.








You clearly don't know anything about Unbranded or Naked and Famous. N&F uses the best Japanese fabrics in the world. They have collaborated with Big John, Momotaro, Oki, the list goes on and on. N&F uses the EXACT same Japanese Selvedge for Unbranded that they use in their N&F jeans, which are the same EXACT fabrics you see $300-400 Jap repro brands using. SHOCKING RIGHT?
The denim will last years, the cuts are nice and and the fades are great. WHAT MORE do you want? Do you think it is difficult to "construct" a pair of jeans? You feed the denim through the rails and machines do everything else. LOL Japanese housewives work at the factories that make your precious $400 jeans. I've seen the workshops in Japan and they are nothing special. That 300% premium you pay is for all that HYPE.
Some people are willing to get 90% of the same quality for 25% of the price. That's how no-name raw jeans work. If you don't like it, THEN DON'T WEAR IT. I own a clothing store and have stocked almost every premium raw selvedge denim brand you can think of in the last 10 years and have sold hundreds of raw jeans. I've seen plenty of elitist SOBs and poseurs come and go. The ones who spend $400 on jeans go back to wearing crap after a few months. Real denim enthusiasts wear labels like Levis and Unbranded and don't give a fuck what people think about them. That's what raw denim is all about.
Plenty of people will pay $400 for Diesel jeans but will not pay $200 for raw jeans. Premium wash labs require a lot of labor to make good jeans. Raw jeans take literally 15 minutes to cut and sew and construct by any decent atelier. To most consumers, the jeans look too minimalistic to justify spending that much money on. If you want to waste $400 on jeans of slightly higher quality so you can feed the nose-candy habits of elitist denim shop owners be my guest but don't put people down who are trying to get into raw denim because they don't want to spend $400 to achieve great fades.
while all these companies use the same fabric being "denim" they surely are not all the same. They use different types of cottons and different methods of dying the fabric. The more expensive jap brands using pure indigo is not the same as a company using synth. indigo. All of that and more also determines the price of the jeans.
And to be honest you sound like a moron.

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Holy shit how little you know shines through, why not continue to lurk until you wise up.
I understand it's rocket science, but they use the same cuts, they also use the same basic fabrics, or at least from the same mills. What cotton and dye they use I'm unsure of.
As for the other kid a post or so up, most brands use a mix of indigo. This thread is made up of people who are stretching the 2-3 facts they know into the end all jean information center. There is so much damn miss info in here it has to be hard for the people who are coming in this thread that actually care about unbranded.

, not sure you got the sarcasm but as far as the cuts I don't know how UB size and to assume because they are under virtually one umbrella that they have the same sizing is asinine. You can keep all that other nonsense your spewing. Wearing your emotions on your sleeve I see.
while all these companies use the same fabric being "denim" they surely are not all the same. They use different types of cottons and different methods of dying the fabric. The more expensive jap brands using pure indigo is not the same as a company using synth. indigo. All of that and more also determines the price of the jeans.
And to be honest you sound like a moron.
Hey jackass, UB uses THE SAME ROPE DYED NATURAL INDIGO SELVEDGE DENIM THAT N&F USE ON THEIR FLAGSHIP MODELS WHICH IS IDENTICAL TO THE DENIM HIGH END JAPANESE LABELS USE, WHICH THEY PURCHASE FROM THE SAME JAPANESE DENIM MILLS. Are you retarded?
Go regurgitate garbage you read on a fashion blog somewhere else.

, not sure you got the sarcasm but as far as the cuts I don't know how UB size and to assume because they are under virtually one umbrella that they have the same sizing is asinine. You can keep all that other nonsense your spewing. Wearing your emotions on your sleeve I see.Another idiot has joined the thread.
I guess when a fashion company introduces a budget line of Raw denim/chinos it will attract all the IGNORANT chumps who don't know anything about fashion or the denim subculture, as to be expected.
Keep up the weak trolling guys. I'm out!


