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Vass - shoe width?

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Hello all...

Having read numerous posts on the merits of Vass, I have recently contacted budapester-schuhe with the intension of ordering a pair.

I know the style & last I want ("╦ťwholecut medalion on the P2 last'). I also understand a beveled waist can be fashioned from the P2 for an up charge (I find the 'U' a little too fashion forward for my taste). The retailer has advised there are 20 different leathers to choose from and I await further details.

The question I fear may be showstopper is.... How wide can the shoe be made? I have raised this issue with retailer and await their reply.

All the Church's shoes I have are 'G' fit although I do have Sargent's & Grenson's in 'F' which is acceptable.

Perhaps width is not a problem with Vass?
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I'm going to leave this for now, since I assume the poster is not in the US.
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Originally Posted by j
I'm going to leave this for now, since I assume the poster is not in the US.

That's correct...I'm English

I understand there is a very different width system in the U.S.

Can someone comment on the width availability of Vass shoes?
post #5 of 10
My understanding is that Vass does not offer differing widths within a last or model. Instead, width is primarily established by the last used. I'm not sure of the gradient of last widths, although I believe that the U-last is probably the narrowest. So, in a somewhat inexact manner, you choose the width you need partly through selection of last, with the consequence that your choice of model will determine the last, and this, in turn, will determine (in an approximate way) the width. I may not have this 100% correct, but I'm sure that our Vass people will clarify matters, if needed.

Incidentally, if you take F and G fittings in British shoes, you have wide feet. If I'm not mistaken, G fitting corresponds to approximately an EE (or possibly EEE) US width. This would suggest that you will need to choose a Vass model on the widest Vass last. Others can perhaps tell us what last that would be.
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Originally Posted by Roger
My understanding is that Vass does not offer differing widths within a last or model. Instead, width is primarily established by the last used. I'm not sure of the gradient of last widths, although I believe that the U-last is probably the narrowest. So, in a somewhat inexact manner, you choose the width you need partly through selection of last, with the consequence that your choice of model will determine the last, and this, in turn, will determine (in an approximate way) the width. I may not have this 100% correct, but I'm sure that our Vass people will clarify matters, if needed.

Incidentally, if you take F and G fittings in British shoes, you have wide feet. If I'm not mistaken, G fitting corresponds to approximately an EE (or possibly EEE) US width. This would suggest that you will need to choose a Vass model on the widest Vass last. Others can perhaps tell us what last that would be.

Thanks for the reply...

There seems to be some small difference of opinion on UK width. Some shoemakers say 'E' is narrow; others say it's normal. Likewise, 'F' is considered normal by some and medium wide by others. 'G' is undisputedly wide and 'H' is the widest I have seen.

So based on my experience of various English shoemakers, I would not chance an 'E' fit. An 'F' is fine and so is 'G' so I would agree I probably need a wide fit but not excessively so.
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Originally Posted by jjl5000
Thanks for the reply...

There seems to be some small difference of opinion on UK width. Some shoemakers say 'E' is narrow; others say it's normal. Likewise, 'F' is considered normal by some and medium wide by others. 'G' is undisputedly wide and 'H' is the widest I have seen.

So based on my experience of various English shoemakers, I would not chance an 'E' fit. An 'F' is fine and so is 'G' so I would agree I probably need a wide fit but not excessively so.
The consensus is that, with the possible exception of Edward Green, a UK E fitting equates to a US D width (which is considered normal, average, or regular--take your pick of terms--but certainly not narrow). With EG, there appears to be a closer correspondence between their fitting letters and US width letters, so that an EG E fitting might fall somewhere between a US D and E, perhaps closer to E. I think it's highly unlikely that you'll find a British shoe with an F fitting that is "normal," but rather it will be wider than normal. Let's split the difference and say "medium wide." Thus, if you have found F and G fittings to work well for you, I would think that you need the equivalent of a US E at the very least, and, more likely, an EE. However, we still need to hear from the Vass experts to know which lasts (and hence which models) will work for you.

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post #8 of 10
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Interesting to see you say EG's are a tad wider than most. I wasn't going to raise this point just yet as it might take the thread off topic and I really need all the help I can get with Vass. However, I received the EG catalogue this morning and in light of your comments I can take some additional comfort that the 'F' width fittings will probably be quite adequate for me.

Do you know anything about the sizes of EGs? I normally take a UK 9.5 and find Church's and Alfred Sargent's an excellent fit for length but I have no experience with EGs.

Having contacted EG direct, a fitting is of course the recommended route but they concur that based on the above, a 9.5 would probably be right.
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Originally Posted by jjl5000
Interesting to see you say EG's are a tad wider than most. I wasn't going to raise this point just yet as it might take the thread off topic and I really need all the help I can get with Vass. However, I received the EG catalogue this morning and in light of your comments I can take some additional comfort that the 'F' width fittings will probably be quite adequate for me.

Do you know anything about the sizes of EGs? I normally take a UK 9.5 and find Church's and Alfred Sargent's an excellent fit for length but I have no experience with EGs.

Having contacted EG direct, a fitting is of course the recommended route but they concur that based on the above, a 9.5 would probably be right.
I find a EG 202 10UK to be just a bit looser than a Church's 10UK. Maybe .2 sizes?
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