Floyd vs Pac

TyCooN · Nov 29, 2009

Alright, ladies. Straighten out your panties. It looks like this fight will happen in May 2010.

TyCooN · Dec 2, 2009

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle6938146.ece

The contest that every boxing fan wants to see may have to wait because Manny Pacquiao is being groomed for an even more audacious challenge before he takes on his last great, unconquered rival, Floyd Mayweather Jr. While the deal-makers work on Pacquiao-Mayweather, Freddie Roach, the Filipino’s trainer, has ambitions for his boxer to go up yet another weight and claim a world title at an eighth weight division. Roach, specifically, has his eyes on Yuri Foreman, the New York-based Israeli, who is the World Boxing Association light-middleweight champion. Pacquiao won his first world title at flyweight, which is up to eight stone. If he moves up another weight he will be competing at 11 stone. The 30-year-old was already breaking new ground when he beat Miguel Cotto, on November 14, to win a world title in a seventh different weight division. It was after that victory at welterweight that he said that he believed his ascent through the weights had come to a natural end. However, Roach clearly has other ideas — and Pacquiao tends to follow his advice. “The Mayweather fight is the fight the world wants to see,” Roach said. “It’s going to be the biggest pay-per-view fight of all time. But I think we will fight one fight before that.” Roach said that Pacquiao’s schedule will be constructed around his political ambitions and the elections in the Philippines on May 10. “But there is a March date for him to fight,” Roach said. “People think I am crazy but I want him to win his eighth title against Yuri Foreman at 154lb. That’s my idea — then fight Mayweather in September. And then retire.” The way Roach sees it, there will be no further blemishes on Pacquiao’s record by the time he greets retirement, although he does concede that Mayweather will be “the hardest fight of his life”. “Mayweather’s a very difficult fight for Manny,” he said. “It won’t be physically the hardest, but it will be the hardest fight of his life style-wise. Mayweather is talented and he’s good at defence. I have a very good game plan for him, but I’m sure a lot of other guys thought that along the way. “We’ll have a ten-week training camp. We have to work on a lot of new moves, we have to improve in certain areas to win that fight.” And would he expect his man to win? “Oh yes. Without a doubt.” This is, of course, a different view to that espoused by Mayweather after he had witnessed Pacquiao’s brutal demolition of Cotto. Mayweather described Pacquiao as “easy work, easy fight. I don’t see no versatility in Manny Pacquiao. I see just a fighter, you know, a good puncher, but just one dimension.”

TyCooH's Take on things: They are expecting the worse for fanny when he goes into the ring with the greatest fighter in the world, so they're planning to cherrypick the jew to get an eigth belt in attempt to make sure Floyd won't ever beat pac legacy wise. If we can't beat him in the ring let's beat him outside of it. If this trash is true I'm hoping the jew pulls an upset.

Journeyman · Dec 2, 2009

Originally Posted by TyCooN

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle6938146.ece

TyCooH's Take on things:
They are expecting the worse for fanny when he goes into the ring with the greatest fighter in the world, so they're planning to cherrypick the jew to get an eigth belt in attempt to make sure Floyd won't ever beat pac legacy wise. If we can't beat him in the ring let's beat him outside of it.

If this trash is true I'm hoping the jew pulls an upset.

I know that I'm not up with "boxing insider" speak, but was it really necessary to use the term "jew" in what clearly seems to be a pejorative sense?

I realise that Yuri Foreman is Israeli and that he is, therefore, most likely to be Jewish.
However, would you describe other boxers as "the Catholic", "the Protestant", or "the Muslim"? If not, then you should not describe Foreman in such a way.

I'm just glad to see that you didn't describe Pacquiao as "the ****"...

Matt · Dec 2, 2009

yeah, I don't buy in on these things often, but Journeyman has a point. Tycoon, edit that. Your thread depends on it.

grundletaint · Dec 2, 2009

well if manny loses that one, doesn't that lessen the impact of floyd's victory should he win?

IIIrd Icon · Dec 2, 2009

Originally Posted by Journeyman

I'm just glad to see that you didn't describe Pacquiao as "the ****"...

actually, he's a flip not "****".

TyCooN · Dec 2, 2009

Roy jones was knocked out earlier today in round one.

Ambulance Chaser · Dec 4, 2009

My dream scenario:

Mayweather builds up a huge lead, then midway through the fight gets on his bicycle and starts running. Pacquiao keeps pressing forward and his aggressiveness is rewarded with a controversial split decision. Pacquiao immediately retires to enter Filipino politics. Mayweather throws a tantrum in the ring and spends the rest of his life complaining he was jobbed and trying in vain to get a rematch.

Slopho · Dec 4, 2009

Originally Posted by Ambulance Chaser

My dream scenario:

Mayweather builds up a huge lead, then midway through the fight gets on his bicycle and starts running. Pacquiao keeps pressing forward and his aggressiveness is rewarded with a controversial split decision. Pacquiao immediately retires to enter Filipino politics. Mayweather throws a tantrum in the ring and spends the rest of his life complaining he was jobbed and trying in vain to get a rematch.

Could we replace "Filipino politics" with "singing career"??

acidboy · Dec 4, 2009

Originally Posted by Slopho

Could we replace "Filipino politics" with "singing career"??

to quote a friend of mine, "this is how we know Manny is so well-loved, when he sings people applaud."

LawrenceMD · Dec 8, 2009

PBF did beat Marquez easily and Pac had a hard time in both his fights. Why? because marquez is his special opponent that will always have Pac's number. Luckily (and dubiously) pac escaped with a draw and a win.

PBF still hasn't walked into a match where he wasn't a total favorite. Plus PBF just hasn't hooked up with an opponent who has his number yet. That could be pac. the fighter who might just have the tools to finally hurt PBF and sustain all out fight for all 12 rounds.

sometimes fighters just have opponents (who are not on that special level as their own) that will give them fits no matter what.

I don't think that PBF punches harder than cotto. And pac handled what cotto had to give. PBF has the best boxing form and game of his generation but as pac showed he has one punch KTFO power even at welterweight plus a vastly improved boxing form.

I guess it comes down to speed. PBF has speed in defense and pac has speed in offense. Thats why this fight is awesome because PBF can make manny look like a fool but then again pac could torch him with a huge hit and render PBF boxing prowess useless.

I just want to see a good fight. Its funny because i know PBF and his father and uncle will pull out all the stops (even trying the race card and mud slinging) but pac isn't really one to engage in that (since it is all business to him). I think a good move by PBF would just be to play it cool and not be the bad guy for a change. That way he can get some more people on his side. Because the way this is going the whole crowd will be on pac's side roaring him on at the first sign of blood.

bdeuce22 · Dec 26, 2009

Originally Posted by bdeuce22

and people knew this was going to be boring. counter-puncher vs counter-puncher.

i have a feeling the pac-floyd fight will never happen, even though the world would pay to see it.

here's my timeline:

Present: Freddie calls out Floyd (already happening)
December/January: Floyd says "Let's show the world I "want" to fight Manny". The promoting starts with a May fight date. The world is pumped....
February: Fight called off. Mayweather wants 60% of the money. Manny wants 50%. both sides won't agree.

End of story.

well....i was almost right

TyCooN · Dec 26, 2009

Pac camp wants to fight paulie now. Paulie had a strong opinion about fanny pac being on roids. If someone like him will fight without elaborate drug testing why can't you do it Floyd?

Boxing politics

bdeuce22 · Dec 26, 2009

mayweather is just a *****...

TyCooN · Dec 26, 2009

cause passio's camp decided to back out of the fight and threaten legal action?

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