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post #76 of 1044
I'm not a fan of soccer (or any sport), but I do want to see the world cup to watch how the self proclaimed sophisticated, morally superior Europeans in the stands treat the black players on the field, and show their true colors (no pun intended). I caught a glimpse of the behavior on Bryant Gumble's show last year, and have to say, it was sickening.
post #77 of 1044
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Originally Posted by javyn
I'm not a fan of soccer (or any sport), but I do want to see the world cup to watch how the self proclaimed sophisticated, morally superior Europeans in the stands treat the black players on the field, and show their true colors (no pun intended). I caught a glimpse of the behavior on Bryant Gumble's show last year, and have to say, it was sickening.

Oh, Neo-Nazi's here they come!

Jon.

I saw the special as well...sigh, WTF is wrong with people?
post #78 of 1044
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Originally Posted by javyn
I'm not a fan of soccer (or any sport), but I do want to see the world cup to watch how the self proclaimed sophisticated, morally superior Europeans in the stands treat the black players on the field, and show their true colors (no pun intended). I caught a glimpse of the behavior on Bryant Gumble's show last year, and have to say, it was sickening.

Who are these self proclaimed sophisticated, morally superior Europeans? Are you saying the people you saw on BG's show claimed to be sophisticated and morally superior? Or are you making a ridiculous generalization about the population of an entire continent of diverse peoples and then ascribing the actions of some rascist cretins to them? Either way, have fun!
post #79 of 1044
ridiculous generalization from a fat american pig. btw Image, the nationalist movement in Europe is picking up steam very quickly. the neo-nazis are now actively recruiting at the matches, and are making terrorist threats about bombing the stadiums if they keep letting blacks play.
post #80 of 1044
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Originally Posted by javyn
ridiculous generalization from a fat american pig.


btw Image, the nationalist movement in Europe is picking up steam very quickly.

the neo-nazis are now actively recruiting at the matches, and are making terrorist threats about bombing the stadiums if they keep letting blacks play.

I don't know how you can paint all Europeans with the same brush.I am English and I don't feel European at all.It shows how ignorant you are if you think a Pole is the same culturally as a Swede,or an Italian like a Ukranian,or a Finn like a Portuguese.
As for far right factions,its a bit rich coming from someone who has that right wing numb nuts as leader!
post #81 of 1044
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Originally Posted by javyn
ridiculous generalization from a fat american pig.


btw Image, the nationalist movement in Europe is picking up steam very quickly.

the neo-nazis are now actively recruiting at the matches, and are making terrorist threats about bombing the stadiums if they keep letting blacks play.

Somehow I doubt these are the people who fall into the 'self-proclaimed sophisticated and morally superior' camp. I've not heard of Image, but neo-nazi recruiting at football matches is nothing new - the National Front/British Movement were recruiting at football grounds back in the '80s, although the bombing threats are certainly worrisome. Who irks/sickens you more: the morally superior sophisticates or the neo-nazi rascists? I think the two are mutually exclusive...
post #82 of 1044
(Adopts Hank Hill voice) "These hooligans, tell you what, they are giving everyone a bad reputation!" Seriously though, I am and feel european. Hooliganism is a scourge worldwide, not limited to football. Unfortunately as it is such a popular and iconic pastime for the majority of the world, it attracts every bastard as well as every normal person. And yes, I would never mistake a Greek for an Italian for a Brit for a Swede et.c. All different people that live on the same continent. Lots of commonalities but also lots of differences - in many ways that is what makes it so interesting. Anyhow, my point is that football hooligans are usually looked as at as lower class thugs - chav or ned would be a choice phrase I could use for many of the British ones. Unfortunately due to many incidents in the past where British fans were involved, English especially football fans are often painted as such even that is obviously not the case. Edit: Romafan, I agree. Skinheads for instance in the UK are not necessarily neo-nazi but some groups of them are, and they often recruit wherever they find supporters...
post #83 of 1044
Okay, there was another WC thread that devolved into moaning about hooliganism and otherwise ridiculing football (see the Men's Clothing here: http://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=15947), please go find that one and contribute there. I would like to talk about football.

How will Cisse's injury impact France? I heard he would be paired with Hentry up front. What now?

bob
post #84 of 1044
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Originally Posted by rdawson808
Okay, there was another WC thread that devolved into moaning about hooliganism and otherwise ridiculing football (see the Men's Clothing here: http://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=15947), please go find that one and contribute there. I would like to talk about football.

How will Cisse's injury impact France? I heard he would be paired with Hentry up front. What now?

bob

I think it will benefit France,he is lazy and not even a regular for Liverpool who were trying to offload him this summer.
post #85 of 1044
Some of the African countries are going to show better this year than in previous years, Nazi's or no, they will play well. I also think the US might show better than everyone else is expecting.

Jon.
post #86 of 1044
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Originally Posted by rdawson808
Okay, there was another WC thread that devolved into moaning about hooliganism and otherwise ridiculing football (see the Men's Clothing here: http://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=15947), please go find that one and contribute there. I would like to talk about football.

How will Cisse's injury impact France? I heard he would be paired with Hentry up front. What now?

bob

Tezeguet and Saha are capable replacements. As Cisse is out for the duration, they are calling up Govou from Lyon - don't know much about him (half a dozen goals this year?), but Lyon ran away with the French title.

I am mystified by the exclusion of Philippe Mexes from the squad. He had a monster year, and is showing himself to be one of the best young defenders in Europe...
post #87 of 1044
I am mystified by the exclusion of Philippe Mexes from the squad. He had a monster year, and is showing himself to be one of the best young defenders in Europe...[/quote]

I agree wholeheartedly.I wanted Utd to get him when he signed for Roma.Mexes out is a mystery,but Boumsong in is a bigger mystery he has had an absolute nightmare this season.He turns like the Titanic and swiches off 2-3 times a game.
post #88 of 1044
Although I Live In The Uk I Am Rooting For The Usa. My Dream Would Be To See Uk And The Us In The Final.
post #89 of 1044
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Originally Posted by imageWIS
Some of the African countries are going to show better this year than in previous years, Nazi’s or no, they will play well. I also think the US might show better than everyone else is expecting.

Jon.

The stage is set for the US to have the greatest WC showing in recent history. Emerging from the Group of Death only to eliminate favored Brazil -- World Cup glory would be ours!!

Of course, that's kind of a long shot.
post #90 of 1044
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Originally Posted by montecristo#4
The stage is set for the US to have the greatest WC showing in recent history.

I figure that if I talk enough smack about how the US is gonna do great now, I'll either be really right and able to say, "I told you so" or they'll bow out quickly and I'll just shrug and say, "what did you expect from a non-footballing nation?"

I agree that the African nations are gonna show well soon. If not this cup, then the next. They're starting to get several good players together, instead of relying on just one such as when Weah played.
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