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post #661 of 1044
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Originally Posted by bigbadbuff
IIRC the last card given to a star player in the WC for diving was Rivaldo in 02. They simply aren't cracking down on it and it's maddening. I am a Christiano Ronaldo fan, but he is one of a growing # of newer players that make diving as big a part of their game as anything else, and it has just got to stop.


I saw at least two cads given for diving in this World Cup. One to Brazil, the other to.... I forget.
post #662 of 1044
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Originally Posted by bigbadbuff
It doesn't help that refs- even at this stage- do nothing most of the time about diving. I thought I read that they were TOLD to card when they saw diving in this WC- the hell if I've seen but a handful and there's generous diving in most every game. I don't get them going bonkers with cards on questionable hits/fouls at best and yet they refuse to yank them out for diving, instead motioning the player up

IIRC the last card given to a star player in the WC for diving was Rivaldo in 02. They simply aren't cracking down on it and it's maddening. I am a Christiano Ronaldo fan, but he is one of a growing # of newer players that make diving as big a part of their game as anything else, and it has just got to stop.

Bring on instant replay and red card players who dive- it WILL stop.

Totti was also (unjustly) red carded for diving in '02
post #663 of 1044
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Originally Posted by montecristo#4
Wow, before I agreed with you, but looking at those images I just see a dive.
yes, still-pictures are very misleading.

!luc
post #664 of 1044
I don't understand all the concern about diving. At least the foul calls seem to be evenly distributed, unlike certain other sports (*cough*NBA*cough*) where certain superstars (*cough*LeBron*cough*) get foul calls if someone breathes on them.

Yes, I'm still bitter over the Wizards-Cavs first-round series.

Threadjack and rant over . . .
post #665 of 1044
I've been reading Portuguese newspapers online, and I haven't seen any journalists question the circumstances of Zidane's goal. Again, I didn't see the first half, but at the speed he was running, from what I heard, the crochet I see on the pictures submitted by Luc would be sufficient for Henry to lose his balance.

Unfortunately, TV5Monde decided to show footage from the Brazil-France match at half time instead of focusing on the goal.
post #666 of 1044
Changed my mind on Portugal. Sore losers, they deserved the thrashing they got h
post #667 of 1044
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Originally Posted by skalogre
they deserved the thrashing they got h

1-0 win on a penalty is thrashing? Portugal played much better overall than France, but that doesn't always win the games.
post #668 of 1044
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Originally Posted by bigbadbuff
1-0 win on a penalty is thrashing? Portugal played much better overall than France, but that doesn't always win the games.

LOL. You are right; I am just bitter
post #669 of 1044
i'm forgoing commenting on much of what has preceded me, especially diving.

since this is style forum, i just wanted to say that grosso's and del piero's goals were two of the most stylish goals i've ever seen. phenomenal and with the panache one expects, but rarely gets, from the azzurri or anyone else.
post #670 of 1044
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i think italy will take the final.

Chuck, Jill, beware. The country now may shut down for July and August.
post #671 of 1044
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Originally Posted by Steve B.
Chuck, Jill, beware. The country now may shut down for July and August.



P.s. has it been 10 posts already, Steve?
post #672 of 1044
I openly dislike Italians. Shame the WW2 didn't humble them as it did to Germans!
post #673 of 1044
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Originally Posted by benecios
Cannavaro has been immense.
I also thought Rafa Marquez was virtually dragging Mexico through on his own,but with their earlyish exit he is never going to win player of the tournament.

rafa marquez was our second best defender, after osorio. aside from his goal against argentina, he was our worst player on attack. he mostly gave the ball to the other team.

the best player of the tournament was messi.
post #674 of 1044
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Originally Posted by romafan
What games have you been watching? Did you see the Ghana or Czech games? Both the U.S. and Australia both played strong, 'above-their-ability' games against Italy. Germany had just beaten Argentina (one of the tournament's most impressive sides) and was playing in front of a stadium of their own fans... Do you think Italy has been more 'theatrical' than any other team?

the u.s. can play much better than they did against italy. actually, both teams played lousy, but it was still a great game because of the tension.
post #675 of 1044
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the truth is, all the teams in the world cup play badly. all of them. for two reasons; first, the players are very nervous, and they make mistakes they would not ordinarily make. second, to make a good team, the players have to play together everyday. live together, travel together, sleep together. then, you can make a great team. the teams you see in the world cup are together for a very short time. there is a lot of individual talent, but there is no teamwork. no national team can hold a candle to a good professional team.
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